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Are there any Bellagio's in the states?
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Apparently available anywhere in the world except the US and Canada. Not sure about South America
Pascal
Cruisin' Guzzisti
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they discontinued anyway?
Thought they stopped production...
Thought they stopped production...
Pascal said:
It is still listed on the factory web site.
Pascal
Cruisin' Guzzisti
Good. It is a cool bike...
It is the dumbest marketing decision ever made by Guzzi.
The Bellagio is the direct descendant of the Cali "Stone" series which was released to compete directly with the Harley Sportsters. Even with its single sided swingarm and monoshock it still has the cruiser look, and then they add 'T' bars and offer a super low arsed version and most models were painted matt black.
????????? Somebody in the marketing dept f%#&@d up.
You could import mine from Australia
The Bellagio is the direct descendant of the Cali "Stone" series which was released to compete directly with the Harley Sportsters. Even with its single sided swingarm and monoshock it still has the cruiser look, and then they add 'T' bars and offer a super low arsed version and most models were painted matt black.
????????? Somebody in the marketing dept f%#&@d up.
You could import mine from Australia
ghezzi said:It is the dumbest marketing decision ever made by Guzzi.
The Bellagio is the direct descendant of the Cali "Stone" series which was released to compete directly with the Harley Sportsters. Even with its single sided swingarm and monoshock it still has the cruiser look, and then they add 'T' bars and offer a super low arsed version and most models were painted matt black.
????????? Somebody in the marketing dept f%#&@d up.
You could import mine from Australia
To bad, I like the looks of the Bellagio. Here in the states the Sportsters are a dime a dozen and just too vanilla for me.
magoo
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I live down under and there are many (relatively speaking) Bellagios in OZ. I know three owners locally and they all love theirs. Very good ergos for shortarse people and perhaps lady riders too.
I don't know why some model lines aren't sold in the US but I do know that most Guzzis sold here are approx TWICE the price of those in the US, even taking into account the very strong local Aussie $. Maybe if they have a low selling model in Europe (very few cruisers there) they decide to maximise profits by only selling where the markup is high ??
I don't know why some model lines aren't sold in the US but I do know that most Guzzis sold here are approx TWICE the price of those in the US, even taking into account the very strong local Aussie $. Maybe if they have a low selling model in Europe (very few cruisers there) they decide to maximise profits by only selling where the markup is high ??
Guy R
Tuned and Synch'ed
A great bike. Good foot peg to seat to bar ratio, comfortable seat, easy stable handling and the short stroke motor is sweet as! Don't know why they don't sell! These things are fun. They are hard to classify, and the bike media keeps labelling them a cruiser which I think is misleading.
Penis Rotor
GT Godfather!
The crazy thing is the Bellagio is probably the best 'Old' motored big block ever built.
As everyone who comes here often knows I'm an 8V Evangelist but the Bellagio is just so *Right*. Everything works, bore, stroke, their ratio, valve and port size, fuelling, its just a brilliant bike. It has been said before that the reason it isn't sold in the USA is probably due to displacement. Jesus! The sort of inadequate softcoques who are or ride about on such stuff are never going to buy something that isn't a Harley or something with a name like a 'Flagelator' or something suitably 'Manly'! Bugger me drunk! Why not bring a few in and see what happens? I reckon they'd sell like lobster tails at a $ a kilo!
Pete
As everyone who comes here often knows I'm an 8V Evangelist but the Bellagio is just so *Right*. Everything works, bore, stroke, their ratio, valve and port size, fuelling, its just a brilliant bike. It has been said before that the reason it isn't sold in the USA is probably due to displacement. Jesus! The sort of inadequate softcoques who are or ride about on such stuff are never going to buy something that isn't a Harley or something with a name like a 'Flagelator' or something suitably 'Manly'! Bugger me drunk! Why not bring a few in and see what happens? I reckon they'd sell like lobster tails at a $ a kilo!
Pete
pete roper said:
Everyone I've ever spoken to about the Bellagio says much the same as Pete, but.....
My local dealers uncrated their first one, did the pre-delivery stuff and took it for a ride. They were stunned how good it was and promptly registered it as a demo bike expecting to sell shed loads.....but it sat in their showroom for months and months with punters steadfastly ignoring it! Eventually they did sell it but never bothered to stock another. Suspicion was it didn't appeal to the stereotype cruiser buyer who wants cubes (and preferably American cubes), it was too big for the people looking for a 'small bike' who bought a Nevada or Breva 750 and not retro enough for those looking for a traditionally styled bike who bought V7s.
I think their experience was repeated in many UK dealerships so it was dropped from the UK range while elsewhere in Europe it is still available.
I spoke with the former N.A. Product Manager last year, and the decision not to bring it in was due to retail price (I think would've been ~$13,995 USD, which still would've been at a loss) vs. displacement against every other bike/brand offered here. Reality is/was that no one would likely buy one until they sat for years and were available at blow-out prices.
All that said, if I have the opportunity to own or at least ride one, I'd leap. Perhaps when I come to Oz/NZ next year.
Ghezzi, I'd love to buy your bike... but AU$ to US$ cost of the bikes here is 50%. If you want to sell to me for 50% off, I'd certainly consider it. :S
All that said, if I have the opportunity to own or at least ride one, I'd leap. Perhaps when I come to Oz/NZ next year.
Ghezzi, I'd love to buy your bike... but AU$ to US$ cost of the bikes here is 50%. If you want to sell to me for 50% off, I'd certainly consider it. :S
Hi Todd, at regular US$ Guzzi values my sale price maybe double, but just think of its real value over there.
The only Bellagio in the USA, with 76RWHP & 60ft/lbs on a stock 936cc motor with just pipe and air box mods.
You had at least better book in for a test ride/tour, I would consider the MGS01 for a straight swap.
On a more serious note, could you find me a genuine Gezzi & Brian Fionda or Furia, I would definately talk turkey on that deal.
The only Bellagio in the USA, with 76RWHP & 60ft/lbs on a stock 936cc motor with just pipe and air box mods.
You had at least better book in for a test ride/tour, I would consider the MGS01 for a straight swap.
On a more serious note, could you find me a genuine Gezzi & Brian Fionda or Furia, I would definately talk turkey on that deal.
grimace
Tuned and Synch'ed
The Bellagio was the reason I started looking at Guzzis again. Found out that they didn't sell them in the US, The V7 caught my interest than saw the Griso 8v which I ended up getting. The Bellagio would have fit the bill when I was looking for a lighter more nimble cruiser like bike after riding my M109r. The 850 Griso would have been cool as well. Seems like there would be a niche for moderately powered 500lbs ish bikes for Guzzi. Triumph has their Bonneville/Speedster range.
Penis Rotor
GT Godfather!
Todd, if you want one, or anybody else, as I'm sure I've said before I can supply at Oz trade price. Dunno about importation or rego requirements but it is eminently doable, if expensive, from here. If I asked nicely they might even be able to ship from Italy direct but I don't know about that.
The Belli is a spectacularly fun motorbike. No Tacho, you just hold the throttle wide open until it goes 'Blurp, Blurp, Blurp!' And then you cog up, five times!!! You can pull air at he front with little effort but you can also tour and 'Cruise' and for such a short stroke motor the torque is splendid.
Pete
The Belli is a spectacularly fun motorbike. No Tacho, you just hold the throttle wide open until it goes 'Blurp, Blurp, Blurp!' And then you cog up, five times!!! You can pull air at he front with little effort but you can also tour and 'Cruise' and for such a short stroke motor the torque is splendid.
Pete
Guy R
Tuned and Synch'ed
Yeah the spec sheet quotes a lower torque figure for the Bella than my Jackal but there's nothing in it on the road. The 940 is amazingly flexible, smooth and willing. The Jackal has old school tractor torque and with the heavy flywheel it has own character. It's a case of numbers on paper not telling the real storey. No oil coolers and other extra bits cluttering everything up either. Very easy to work on. A joy to ride. FUN FUN FUN.
Moz
Cruisin' Guzzisti
I agree with Pete - they just work!
and eminently customisable as well if you want to get away from the cruiser look
and eminently customisable as well if you want to get away from the cruiser look
