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Breva 11 Red Warning Light etc

PhilM

Just got it firing!
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This saga started just before the old server crashed & burned and I put some info on the forum then. I'd had a series of brief cut-outs when riding where the engine would die for a second or two, the dash warning light came on + service in the display. It would then re-start as I slowed in gear and continue with no more problems. No error codes showed when I checked later.

After about the sixth event I'd had enough and booked it in for the dealer to check it out. The bike must have taken offence at this because it cut out on the way to the dealer !! The warning light stayed on and it woudn't start. In one way this was good, as there was now a fault to fix (or so I thought). The dealer came out and took the bike in (having dropped me back home).

The next morning when they looked at the bike it started first time, no problem. Despite this, they thought that the immobiliser could be the cause of the problem and re-jigged the wiring somehow. I spoke to the mechanic and apparently when he interogated the ecu with the Axone there were stored fault codes for the injectors and coils. They weren't present anymore and the bike ran fine. However when I looked at the wiring diagram, the coils, injectors and fuel pump all run off the secondary injection relay, one of the 30 amp relays. This seemed more than a coincidence. However, I only rode the bike a couple more times before laying it (me) up for the winter and had no more problems.

One weekend in February when the weather improved I decided to get it out from hibernation. On the Saturday I checked it over and ran it for a while, everything was fine. Next day, decided to go for a run, no start and there was the dreaded red light again. This time I went straight for the secondary relay and swapped it with the lights relay. Bingo, started straight away. I decided to change all three 30 amp relays and done about 500 miles with no problems since (touch wood). By the way, there is a drain hole in the tray below the secondary relay and it was blocked with dirt. If any water builds up in there it will short the connections on the relay plug.

Hopefully nobody else will have this problem, but if you do this might save some time.

Cheers

Phil
 
PhilM wrote:
By the way, there is a drain hole in the tray below the secondary relay and it was blocked with dirt. If any water builds up in there it will short the connections on the relay plug.

Thanks for the heads up on that one - I didn't know it was there. Might have a bo peep at mine this weekend.
 
Brian UK wrote:
Anyone know a source for these relays, apart from Guzzi? I would like to carry a spare.

I tried to find some elsewhere but gave up due to there being so many different styles. Pyro Dan doesn't do relays for the new models. They cost about 14 quid from the dealer. The reason I changed all three was because I'd swapped them around in the past to try and cure a starting problem, figured I'd bin the lot and start afresh.

Phil
 
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