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Considering an Audace or El Dorado

Discussion in 'Cal 1400 8V' started by Glenn Thorpe, Nov 23, 2017.

  1. stephenm

    stephenm Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    How many litres of fuel did you add after 220km?
    The fuel warning light comes on with 5 litres in the tank,
    enough for about another 75km.

    I have 40,000km on my touring.
    I ride mostly two up with full luggage.
    Into a strong headwind at 110kmh, I have seen 9 l / 100km,
    but the normal range is 6-8 l / 100km.
    Solo at 100kmh returns about 6 l / 100km.

    Stephen
     
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  2. Henrik L

    Henrik L Just got it firing!

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    Thanks, nice info.
    This was my first ride ever on a audace. I wanted to see how the riding position worked with my body etc. Grips pegs etc..
    So a totally new bike zero miles, was registered on my behalf so I could test drive it.
    So I did focus on riding it on different roads and speed.
    I think the reserve tank kicked in and I went 15 km on it.. It had ONE dott left. Does not say so much but at least I could end up at the store with it.
    But the total length I drove switched to focus on reserve tank, so a bit unknown when it did it.

    But reading here and elsewhere it sounds like this fule consumption was more related to the first miles ever made on the bike. And avarage is 0.6-0.75 / 10km. And if you load up a lot then I understand the consumption increases.
    But on my virgin ride with this one I was solo and no extra baggage.

    So in totalt 220-235 including reserve.
    On one ride.. Feels less than expected.

    Are there any setup which might have been incorrect turismo mode wise or so?
    Just fishing for a reason why it was so high as I might buy this one.

    Thanks
     
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  3. PaulDavies

    PaulDavies Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    Nothing to do with any setup that I can think of, more a rider and road thing. All I can think is that at the speeds you mention, 110-120 kph, on an Audace, you are going to have the aerodynamics of barn door, certainly if you go much faster. Many others counteract that by fitting some kind of fly screen to reduce the drag which I suspect will improve fuel consumption and make it easier for you to ride. You don't say what height you are, but I found the 2016 Audace straight boards too much of a reach, so fitted the 2017 bars (see here https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/handlebar-risers-for-audace.17004/ )
     
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  4. Henrik L

    Henrik L Just got it firing!

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    Hi,

    Well the speed at 110-120km/h was 60 out of the 220isch. So the majority was done at lower speed more less 70-90km/h.
    But for sure, I saw some modifications where there was a screen added on audace. Small and nice... Will probably try to get a similar, if I buy one.
    I'm 185cm long, so there you go.
    But riding position was ok.
    The clutch was fine but in the end I could feel the impact on the left hand. I have not driven a bike in 22 years. Looking forward for some bike traveling again.

    Nice to know there is no setup that might fizzle the fule consumption.
    I'll check for price tomorrow, see what they can offer me.
     
  5. stephenm

    stephenm Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    The fuel consumption of my Touring definitely improved after 10,000km.
    The engine also likes to spin. If you are giving it some work to do,
    the starting point should be 3,500 - 4,000rpm.
    There is no actual 'reserve.'
    The fuel sender starts the warning light and the 'counter.'
    When there is 1 bar left on the fuel gauge, the warning light comes on.
    When that bar is gone, the counter starts, telling you km since it started counting.
    75km seems to be ball park.
    I have run it dry at exactly 75km. (Had spare fuel).
    If you still had 1 bar left, then you still had up to 75 km of range,
    and potentially 5 litres of fuel in the tank.

    The riding mode shouldn't affect the fuel consumption much.

    Stephen
     
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  6. Henrik L

    Henrik L Just got it firing!

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    Aha, Thanks.
    My first ride so I could have mixed up the details regarding when the bar was depleted vs when the counter started.
    There were a warning light (fule wise) and the counter. Then in what sequence and I trust you on this. My attention was the bike and the trafic.

    I think I'll do the same. Grab a load of extra fule and see fow far it goes.

    The improvements after 10, 000 km sounds reassuring. 5 liters sounds good. Then even at worst case 50km should be there for sure.

    Alrighty, I'll be back for more. See if I'm a Guzzi owner at the end of the day.
    My colleague actually was borned nearby Lake Como in Italy.
    I will fore sure take a ride there sooner or later.
     
  7. Henrik L

    Henrik L Just got it firing!

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    Hi Again..
    Alrighty.. A Carbon 2017 year modle Audace just ordered.
    Zero mile, brand new, red cylinders.
    Probably delivered next week.
    I just love the look, it brings satisfaction and a inner smile no other bike gives.
    Cheers
     
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    PaulDavies Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    Awesome.
    :clap::clap::clap: Don't forget to post a picture. I'd love to get a look at that carbon model
     
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  9. Henrik L

    Henrik L Just got it firing!

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    Thanks :rofl:
    For sure, I'll add some pictures when it is home. :cool:
    Will take a few days to make it ready so.. Mid or later next week I would assume I will be collecting the beauty.
    Cheers
    Br Henrik
     
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    aksinhas Just got it firing!

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    Torn between El Dorado and Audace - help!
     
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  11. Meldrew

    Meldrew Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    For me it's the Eldo, but ultimately it's down to individual choice and ergonomics/use. Either way it's the Guzzi familia and everyone's welcome.
    Made a few addition/alterations to mine and its almost there. Just a couple more big ticket items to purchase. :):giggle:
     
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    Dtr20 Just got it firing!

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    MG overproduced the 2016 Audaces. I am not sure about the Eldo, but the 2016 Audaces are basically half off original MSRP. They are new old stock, brand new out of the crate.
     
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