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I cannot get my Norge on the centerstand!!

Discussion in 'BNS12 Chat & Tech' started by Sgrabin, May 13, 2021.

  1. Sgrabin

    Sgrabin Just got it firing!

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    I have tried everything. I have watched YouTube videos and read multiple articles. I’ve tried pushing with my right foot while lifting the rear and pushing with my left foot while lifting the rear. I have also tried all this while slowly rolling the bike backwards. Nothing! Cannot get it to work. Very frustrating. Is there some secret or trick to getting the f**cking thing up on the centerstand. What the Hell am I missing??

    I’m ready to build a small ramp to lift the back end, but I shouldn’t have to. HELP!
     
  2. Brian UK

    Brian UK GT Reference

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    Well I'm just a youngster at 76, but I can do it.
    How do you have the rear suspension set? If too soft then the rear of the bike will be lower, requiring more lift to get it on the stand.
    Left hand on handlebar, right hand under frame at back, right foot standing on the stand peg.
    But if you have much luggage weight it will be more difficult. When mine is fully loaded I don't usually try to get it on the centre stand.
     
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    Kevin.NZ High Miler

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    Get a motorcycle mate to do it and watch, then practice with him. I do it the same as Brian, left hand onto left handlebar, right hand down onto rear pillion grip bar, push the bike vertical and keep it balanced there, then right foot onto the stand peg. I then push the stand down untill both feet of the stand sit squarely on the ground. With the stand pushed down I then put my whole weight on the right foot and lift my whole body up, I then lean my body slightly over the bike while still holding on the handlebar and rear grip, the bike will balance in this position, then pull up on the rear grip whilst pushing your right foot down and the bike rolls onto the stand, in theory.
     
  4. Raven

    Raven High Miler GT Famiglia

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    It's more of a finesse thing than muscle. I too use the same technique as Brian and Kevin. I always start with the side stand down. It might help to have a friend on the other side of the bike for confidence. It won't fall away from you once the feet touch the ground but as you know there's no stopping it if it does and having a helper there is a psychological boost.
    Once the feet are touching I rock it up onto the stand in one smooth motion. I used to fight it but I finally figured it out.
     
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  5. Matthew Nuttall

    Matthew Nuttall Tuned and Synch'ed

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    I recently learned the clutch trick. Put the bike in first gear, right foot on the center stand, right hand on the frame, left hand on the handlebar. Out all of your weight on the center stand - you should be able to balance.your body over the bike. Once you've done that, gently pull up with your right hand while simultaneously pulling in the clutch. The bike will roll right onto the stand.
     
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  6. Bill Hagan

    Bill Hagan GT Reference GT Famiglia

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    As the saying goes, "I feel your pain." :swear:

    It is a big beast and a challenge to get up on the centerstand ... especially if panniers have anything in them. Doh. :(

    What the others say works, but it is never, IMO, easy.

    My favorite system is to have my always-good-humored Perfect Pillion & Polish Princess available. :giggle: She draws it backwards while I "kick start" it. Easy-peasy. :clap:

    Actually, I rarely use the centerstand, but not (entirely) because it is such a PITA. I just don't see the need.

    Moreover, IMO, it is less stable than when on the side stand. I don't worry about "cowtippers," but my EV on its centerstand once blew over in high winds!

    Good luck with finding the magic formula for you.

    Bill
     

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  7. scottmastrocinque

    scottmastrocinque Scott Mastrocinque GT Famiglia

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    i’ve watched people do all manner of techniques but they fail to utilize the fulcrum power of the stand correctly.

    The center stand is like a impact driver. It is designed to take linear force and turn it into rotational force.

    The technique lies in using your right foot, body weight, and inertial in pushing STRAIGHT DOWN on the center stand pawl while bracing your left hand in the handlebar and your right hand on the rear grip. You do not lift anything, you brace yourself with these two points, and focus your weight, energy, and intent STRAIGHT DOWN on that pawl. The design of the stand will cause the bike to rock backwards and right up onto the stand.

    When you discover how this works, you can literally use 1 finger on the bar and 1 finger on the rear grab, just for stability, and it will pop right up onto the stand. I’ve demonstrated this many times to the bewilderment of viewers.

    Let the lever of the center stand do it’s thing, Don’t fight it.

    I need to make a video I think. Hmm....
     
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  8. Sgrabin

    Sgrabin Just got it firing!

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    Are you starting with the centerstand already touching the ground? Or are you just balancing the bike, with centerstand fully up, then just stomping it? (Like u said, using it like an impact driver). Everything I’ve seen says to start with the centerstand touching the ground. Maybe I can fly you out to Pittsburgh and u can do it for me! LOL
     
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    scottmastrocinque Scott Mastrocinque GT Famiglia

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    Yes, you use your hands and right foot to place BOTH feet of the center stand squarely on the ground. Then all of your force is applied STRAIGHT DOWN on the pawl of the center stand as you use your hands to reinforce your stability to push your energy straight down through your leg. The shape of the center stand will take that linear force, and turn it into rotational force, rocking the bike back onto its stand.

    i don’t have a Norge, but I will make a video of me doing it with my Stelvio, California, and 1200 Sport. It’s the same for them all. I’ll do that tonight.
     
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    DeadEye High Miler GT di Razza Pura

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    I’ll get the popcorn :p
     
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    Sgrabin Just got it firing!

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    I got it! But I cheated. Rolled the Norge back onto a 1” board, then was able to get it on the centerstand.
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    Raven High Miler GT Famiglia

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    That's a start. 3/4, 5/8, 1/2, 3/8, 1/4 and you're there.
     
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    DeadEye High Miler GT di Razza Pura

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    LoL um, what’s that in Metric
     
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    Raven High Miler GT Famiglia

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    Wood thickness is still listed in imperial, at least in North America. I've tried using a metric measuring tape at work but it just feels weird.:think:
     
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    3/4 is 19mm.
    1/2 is 12mm

    We have the pleasure of having to use both.
     
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    jim mac Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    i have very limited space getting my bike out of garage, roll it to get rear wheel onto a plank and place a turntable under the stand, foot on stand and pull up with right hand, left on handlebars. my problem is getting the bike off the centre stand whilst seated on bike, need longer legs i think
     
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    My legs are long enough and (I think ;)) strong enough, but, I. too, have that issue, at least inside the Moto Grappa. The floor is baby-butt-smooth-finished concrete on one side (storage) and Cheap Chinese wood on the other (shop).

    As I mentioned (somewhere above), I rarely use the center stand, tho in my case it can be handy now and then to save space in the MG. When I do, it becomes a struggle to get it down. That's when it helps to have "staff" on call. Thus, as I noted above, "my always-good-humored Perfect Pillion & Polish Princess" has her role down to an art: I sit on the Norge, rock it a bit, and she times her "lift & push" accordingly. :clap:

    I married well. :giggle:

    Bill
     
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    Robert Villiard Tuned and Synch'ed

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    My Balabio would do it, this Norge is different
     
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    Robert Villiard Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Put a 5/4 piece of pressure treated wood w/front edge angled and roll my bike on that, 08 Norge. Then it pops right up!
     
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    Robert Villiard Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Thats inaccurate, no matter mine wont. The stand is too freakin long. After i roll it on a piece of wood it will go up
     

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