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Momentary Switches - Turn Signals

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Apologies in advance if this has been covered, but I could not find a thread.

In the middle of a modification project on my 2016 V7 II. Cleaning up the bars with some new switches. Bought a Motone (similar to Motogadget) switch which I intended to use for the turn signal and horn. Admittedly, I understand very little about electronics. It's a momentary switch, which means it only works when the button is pushed, but turns off when released--I get that part.

Has anyone here installed a similar momentary switch to use for turn signals/horn? I would think the fact that it needs to be depressed to work would be fine since it would be easy to hold down long enough while riding to sufficiently indicate a turn--and the horn is no big deal since you don't want that staying on longer than you need it to.

Do I need any type of relay (other than the stock one on the bike)? Will it blow a fuse if I don't have one?

And in theory, a momentary switch wouldn't be usable for ignition/kill switch, correct? Please correct me if I am way off base here.

Appreciate the help.

Thank you
 

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“I would imagine” - that those switches would be used with a control unit that would take the pulse ( a click) and based on what you configured it to do ( or which contacts you connected it to ) would trigger a relay and timer that would flash the turn signal x times or n seconds ?

But that’s what I Imagine ;)
 
Yeah, that's kinda what I'm wondering--if I do not install some kind of control unit, will it work as a press and hold--because I'm fine with that functionality for turn signals/horn. Wouldn't want that for the headlight/high beam, but turn signals/horn is fine.
 
They are press and hold switches, they will only complete a circuit when pressed, remove your finger, the circuit will be broken.
You will need to run them with a relay, you do not want for example the starter current coming through them, they will probably catch fire lol, if not will melt the wires. If you use them to replace original switchgear, then they will already have relays in their circuits.
 
I'm doing the same thing - and I have latching buttons vs. the momentary. Right now it does nothing when pushed. I'm trying to diagnose the issue (amateur wiring solder or something more elaborate).

I used momentary buttons for the horn and the starter similar to Dev. My question is, is the turn switch a momentary pulse or latching? - my read on the wiring diagram and the way the stock push to cancel switch works is a latching setup - switch left, circuit is flowing, blinker is flashing... push to cancel, and the circuit is broken. With this in mind, I was using a latching left button and latching right button - each with a wire lead and a shared ground. thanks for any insight.
 
Does the manufacturer have diagrams on how you would implement their switches ?
I’d also imagine they have a community page where these sort of questions are posed ?

( I’m not saying don’t post questions here, but some of us have Less experience with those Switches than you do :rofl: ,
where the vendor forum would have a bunch of people working with the products, like you are )
 
thanks for the reply - many companies like Motogadget are basing their wiring diagrams on using the m.unit - which takes a single pulse (momentary) and triggers an output - the reason being the m.unit is designed for older bikes to replace old wiring. my 2014 V7, has a "brains" - and the existing wiring is setup sends a signal to the brains (as I understand it). The question is it a pulse or a continuous connection? I think the existing turn switch is very common... when you switch it what happens? and then push to cancel? how does that work?

The problem with the manufacturers is they generally give a very basic diagram -i.e. here are three wires that come out - orange, white, yellow. And its up to you to figure out. On top of this, my desire to "tinker" gets me into trouble, I have 3D printed my own housing, and pulled the buttons from the manufacturer (chinese) and tried to replicate a full button setup. :D. sometimes my brain outmatches my skill level. :/
 
You guys are making this much more complicated than it needs to be. If the stock signal switch isn't working correctly, either repair or replace with a new OEM switch. Since turn signal function/control now resides in the dash, making changes is not a good idea.
 
John - the signals worked great. I just wanted to make it custom. I love to make things my own and figure this out. I love design and working these problems out. What do you mean by the Function/control now resides in the dash? all I'm doing is changing the input method... flip switch (OEM) vs. button?
 
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