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The Mod, Mob, & More to the Rescue: Reviving a '98 EV

Bill Hagan

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Howdy from the Moto Grappa at the top of Virginia.

My ’98 EV has been hors de combat with unspecified “don’t run right” issues for almost a year. The right cylinder ran when it felt like and it didn’t feel like it much. The left ran, but was hardly perfect. This, despite a recent VA, TB balance, R&R of spark plugs, fresh fuel, and fiddling with plug cables to the coil.

As it’s a favorite of Kathi’s for two-up riding, we haven’t done much of that while the EV’s been on the lift and after I sold my Norge last summer.

Kathi’s a talented pillion who enjoys spirited riding — too bad I’m so old and unskilled — and I enjoy her company on rides.

So, I finally Tom Sawyered two great Guzzi wrenches into coming down and setting things right this past week.

The Capo Meccanico was Scott Mastrocinque, whom everyone here knows. :clap:

His able assistant, Bob Wegman, a longtime Guzzista, drove down from Rochester, N.Y. Bob was an early Guzzi dealer under the Berliners, so, as the saying goes, this wasn't his first Italian rodeo. :giggle:

I had (most) everything ready for the two surgeons, as my job was primarily to have tools and beer ready when the skilled labor grunted meaningfully.

Ahead of the adventure, Scott had me have waiting new injectors, along with new plugs, and air and fuel filters.

The injectors were pricier at $360 than I had expected, but after 107K miles, fuel erosion of the OEM innards — that’s a tech term; RTFM! — had done its erosive thing, so needed.

Aside from learning lots by watching and listening, I had a great time, and think the pros did, too.

Some pix are in the link, below, but for those who are impatient for the bottom line, the EV now runs GREAT.

In fact, as some of the last pix in that slideshow convey, Kathi and I took advantage of the 60ºF temps on Saturday after our guests left, to do a 200-mile loop that included the top third of Skyline Drive. Then, although I detest the slab, I dislike riding in the dark more, so we jumped on I-81 to race sunset. Two-up, we ran at 80 mph — GPS, not Veglia — for about 45 miles. The EV was rock solid and had more to give when I occasionally put spurs to it to get around a tractor-trailer convoy.

The cause of the problem that led to the fix?

Well, even tho we R&R’d injectors, air and fuel filters, and plugs, Scott speculated correctly that there was “old hose” debris in a fuel line south of the filter and north of the injectors. Bob also found that the right-side plug cable needed "more wire, less cable." When we cleaned out that fuel line and exposed more wire ... VAROOM!

So, here are the culled pix (but, yes, still lots) in a slideshow with captions. In my defense, I started with about 150 and cut out more than 100!

The link opens in “landscape collage” format, so you can see all at a glance without slogging through one by one unless you want to do that.

Hover your curser over any pic to see the caption.

[For maddening reasons I do not completely understand, the captions “disappear” if one enlarges the pix and goes through them. On “pure” slideshow, i.e., automatic switching to next slide, the captions continue to appear, but the pace is quick. Keeping the cursor in the “caption area” seems to help if going through manually. As I said, maddening. If anyone knows the code to make it more seamless, please tell me.]

The pix? Go here:

https://bill-and-kathi.smugmug.com/Scott-Bob-Revive-the-EV-Nov-23/n-ngSPNK/

Bill
 
Moral of the story: Change out old fuel lines even if not cracked for better stuff. Over 20ys is long enough.
One reason they put screens in a fuel system. Even the new injectors brings it back in order.
Older EV's are hard to beat. My 98 has been great. Some of us don't need all the newer gadgets to ride.
Nice find Scott.
 
Howdy from the Moto Grappa at the top of Virginia. My ’98 EV has been hors de combat with unspecified “don’t run right” issues for almost a year.
The Capo Meccanico was Scott Mastrocinque, whom everyone here knows. :clap: His able assistant, Bob Wegman, a longtime Guzzista, drove down from Rochester, N.Y. Bob was an early Guzzi dealer under the Berliners, so, as the saying goes, this wasn't his first Italian rodeo. :giggle:
The injectors were pricier at $360 than I had expected
Fun. Thanks for posting here as always Bill.

Injectors for next time...

 
Fun. Thanks for posting here as always Bill.

Injectors for next time...


Well, rats and apologies, Todd.

I think about your store for nearly all things Guzzi, but, for some reason did not even think you offered injectors. So, shame on me!

Bill
 
So your 2 Guzzi aficionados... how can i get them down to Houston area to simply get my Mille GT to run??! No major issues beyond sitting a few years. Unlimited beer/Scotch, etc, OF YOUR CHOICE! Would be a great roadtrip from the NE to God's Country (Taik-sus).
Too many car projects going on that demand my time.
 
Get it to Louisville, and I could be easily tempted.

Texas….um….no. 🤣

My father and all his family are from that “State of Mind” since before it was a state!

For me, a California Boy, born and bred, happiness was Texas in my rear view mirror! 🥳

YMMV 😆
 
Hah, well that's one less Cali guy we have to worry about coddling in our great state. :)
I do like CA, but, like Texas, there are many factors that are bothersome. Prob the most notable is cost of living in CA, right?
 
Not an issue for me for the last 20 years. I live in Ohio!
 
Baloo, I'm in Porter. What part of Houston are you in? Just purchased, but have not taken receipt of, a 2003 Cal EV that has been in storage most of it's life. Runs well as is, but I'll be going through everything before putting it on the road. Been studying up on the various options including the fuel mapping options that Todd has here on his site. Came across this thread and figured I'd say "Hi" to a local.

Just sold my north Texas "Ken Ham" 84 an 85 Cal 2 projects. Won't ever get around to them, so letting go to a younger more ambitious buyer. Still have my 850 Special daily rider. Such a well balanced bike in the twisties.

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You know, this specific recall "education" is one of the items I am currently scrolling through the forum for. Haven't come across details yet. Need to know what I'm looking for on the motor and/or who has the records for complying with such a recall.

I found "To tell if the update was done, remove a valve cover. On the unmodified, the rocker just has a blank at the pushrod side of the rocker. If the update has been done, the pushrod side of the rorker has an adjusting "screw" with a locknut. Once an initial clearance has been established (specified in the update procedure), the locknut is secured and the head of the adjuster is sheared off."

And

"Take a rocker cover off. If the rockers have adjusters that look as if the tops have been snapped off just above the lock-nuts then *a* recall, no idea which one though, will of been performed. If the rockers have no means of adjustment above the pushrod with just asmooth top to the rocker no recall has been carried out.

The second and final recall also involved different valve springs and most importantly retainer caps for the springs. If the retainers are shiny aluminium alloy then the second recall has been completed. If the caps are a duller colour they are the original, (I think?) steel caps and are another indicator that further work should be carried out."

Will check it out when I get the bike and disassemble things.
 
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Baloo, I'm in Porter. What part of Houston are you in? Just purchased, but have not taken receipt of, a 2003 Cal EV that has been in storage most of it's life. Runs well as is, but I'll be going through everything before putting it on the road. Been studying up on the various options including the fuel mapping options that Todd has here on his site. Came across this thread and figured I'd say "Hi" to a local.

I"m in Magnolia TX about 40 mi N of Houston.
SURPRISINGLY, put in a new battery and my Mille started right up!...even after over a year sitting.
Now i feel indebted to it for all that loyalty and MUST finish off those Samsonite removable hardside bag brackets and get it riding, right?
I fitted a clear windscreen and an LED headlight about a yr ago. Too many other vehicle projects to get even one on the road.
I need an extra hand to help get on top of everything.
Wife is useless. 😀

Just sold my north Texas "Ken Ham" 84 an 85 Cal 2 projects. Won't ever get around to them, so letting go to a younger more ambitious buyer. Still have my 850 Special daily rider. Such a well balanced bike in the twisties.
 
You know, this specific recall "education" is one of the items I am currently scrolling through the forum for. Haven't come across details yet. Need to know what I'm looking for on the motor and/or who has the records for complying with such a recall.

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Saw your moniker, "FEDELE."

Maybe we are cousins. :D


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I need an extra hand to help get on top of everything.
Wife is useless. 😀

Kathi, my Perfect Pillion & Polish Pribcess, is not useless in the Moto Grappa, and is often of great help.


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There are times, however, when her views of my needs are indeed useless or worse, which means that I resort to that old adage about forgiveness and permission. ;)


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Best,

Bill
 
Bill, i see she's got her shoulder purse on....so, doesnt do anything that gets her nails dirty, right?
The smartest and best thing my wife can do is stay out of the area when i'm working and throwing tools.
 
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