V100 Stelvio Suspension Thread

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Wheel Travel: Fr: 170 mm, Rr: 170 mm
Target sag: 51~56 mm

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[BioKnee]

Close to hitting 4,000 miles now and I've been pretty disappointed with the Stelvio suspension. I left the forks at the settings it arrived with, dialled the rear shock damping right out as I had heard a journalist say that helped with the ride quality. Yes, that helped soften the atrocious city streets but left me bouncing my way through corners. Just a rubbish rear shock I thought.

Last week I took it to see a suspension specialist, Mark Hammond (mhracing.com). He bounced the back of the bike, rocked it against the front brakes and sighed. He then wound on both pre-load and damping front and rear, got me to sit on the bike to measure the sag, then made a couple of extra tweaks. I took it for test ride around the country roads near his workshop. What a change! What a great investment!

This weekend I took it for a 570 mile excursion to Lincolnshire to visit the Buell and Italian Event (lincsaviation.co.uk/events/uk-buell-and-italian-motorcycle-meet.htm). The suspension is really good now - a little on the firm side on broken roads for my ageing bum, but close to perfect elsewhere - I'm no longer thinking of a shock replacement. I really recommend this service from mhracing to anyone unhappy with their setup. I met a Mandello owner this weekend and suspension was his only gripe with the bike.

So for fellow Stelvio owners I backed out the settings to fully undone (anti-clockwise) and counted the turns:

Right Fork Damping: The screw clicks every sixth of a turn. Set it 10 clicks open from fully anti-clockwise (1.67 rotations)

Right Fork Pre-load: 19 half-turns and 1 quarter-turn from fully anti-clockwise (9.75 rotations)

Rear Shock Damping: 2 half-turns and 1 quarter-turn from fully anti-clockwise (1.25 rotations)

Rear Shock Pre-load: The knob clicks every half-turn. Set it 17 clicks clockwise from fully anti-clockwise (8.5 rotations)

I weigh around 86 kilos, 190 pounds in kit. His advice was not to touch the damping settings with pillion or passengers, just try another 10 clicks on the rear pre-load when fully loaded then adjust to suit.



If any Stelvio owner wants to try these, I suggest you first make a note of your current setup. Please report your results.

Barney

Addendum: My weekend travels were done with panniers and after returning home further experimentation showed that reducing the rear shock damping setting by 0.5 turns gave better ride quality solo without allowing the bike to wallow in corners. I have adjusted the above figure accordingly, and coincidentally 1.25 turns is what the latest version of the manual recommends (see below comments thread).

 

[GTM®]

got me to sit on the bike to measure the sag, then made a couple of extra tweaks. I took it for test ride around the country roads near his workshop. What a change! What a great investment!

Thanks for the post. 'Set to your sag' is the mantra I've been chanting here for ~30+ years now. Glad you got it sorted, and thanks much for the #s.

 

[Vagrant]

Did you ever set it up the way the owners manual tells you to before spending $$$. Then dig out the ruler and finish the setup?
I've found most factory manuals are pretty close.

 

[BioKnee]

@Vagrant Yes, that’s pretty much how it was set when I took it in. You might have seen elsewhere on the forum what inaccuracies there are over the running-in instructions and warning light settings? Well hilariously the manual states that the correct solo damping setting is to open the screw 125 turns from completely closed.

Fully open to fully closed is only around six turns though…

 

[Vagrant]

Welcome to the inaccurate world of Guzzi!

 

[Jan Cermak]

@Vagrant Yes, that’s pretty much how it was set when I took it in. You might have seen elsewhere on the forum what inaccuracies there are over the running-in instructions and warning light settings? Well hilariously the manual states that the correct solo damping setting is to open the screw 125 turns from completely closed.

Fully open to fully closed is only around six turns though…

from manual, IDK, but I see it very accurate

rear
RECOMMENDED SETTING
RIDER ONLY
• PRE-LOAD (KNOB) - FROM FULLY
OPEN (**) CLOSE (*): 1 snap
• HYDRAULIC BRAKING (ADJUSTER) -
FROM FULLY CLOSED (*) OPEN (**):
1.25 turns
RIDER + PASSENGER + LUGGAGE
• PRE-LOAD (KNOB) - FROM FULLY
OPEN (**) CLOSE (*): 26 clicks
• HYDRAULIC BRAKING (ADJUSTER) -
FROM FULLY CLOSED (*) OPEN (**):
0.5 turns
(*) = clockwise
(**) = anticlockwise

front
RECOMMENDED SETTING
RIDER ONLY
• PRELOAD (2) - FROM FULLY OPEN
(**) CLOSE (*): 6 turns
• HYDRAULIC BRAKING (1) - FROM
FULLY CLOSED (*) OPEN (**): 10
clicks
RIDER + PASSENGER + LUGGAGE
• PRELOAD (2) - FROM FULLY OPEN
(**) CLOSE (*): 10 turns
• HYDRAULIC BRAKING (1) - FROM
FULLY CLOSED (*) OPEN (**): 4 clicks
(*) - Clockwise
(**) - Anticlockwise

 

[BioKnee]

from manual, IDK, but I see it very accurate

Screen shot from the online manual:

 

[BioKnee]

@Jan Cermak How satisfied are you with the standard settings when you ride your V100 Stelvio?

 

[Jan Cermak]

Screen shot from the online manual:

Thats a mistake, but I prefer to look in my manuals whether it is paper book I received with the bike or a manual which I downloaded as PDF directly from Moto Guzzi based on my VIN.

What is the source of your online manual? Is it official, is it the final revision etc etc ;-)

 

[Jan Cermak]

@Jan Cermak How satisfied are you with the standard settings when you ride your V100 Stelvio?

Standard settings are OK for most of the situations, but it is too slow on surfaces with long series of potholes. As long as I weight similar to you I tried to set up the suspension based on your numbers and I plan to try it soon. So thank you for the numbers and I will report the result ;-)

 

[BioKnee]

Standard settings are OK for most of the situations, but it is too slow on surfaces with long series of potholes. As long as I weight similar to you I tried to set up the suspension based on your numbers and I plan to try it soon. So thank you for the numbers and I will report the result ;-)

I think maybe the only solution for potholes is to stand up!!

 

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[SecondmotorJoe]

Close to hitting 4,000 miles now and I've been pretty disappointed with the Stelvio suspension. I left the forks at the settings it arrived with, dialled the rear shock damping right out as I had heard a journalist say that helped with the ride quality. Yes, that helped soften the atrocious city streets but left me bouncing my way through corners. Just a rubbish rear shock I thought. Last week I took it to see a suspension specialist, Mark Hammond (mhracing.com). He bounced the back of the bike, rocked it against the front brakes and sighed. He then wound on both pre-load and damping front and rear, got me to sit on the bike to measure the sag, then made a couple of extra tweaks. I took it for test ride around the country roads near his workshop. What a change! What a great investment!

Thank You for sharing the suspension settings, they worked pretty much bang on for me.
Who in Mandello was too deep into the lunch time Prosecco when they decided on the factory suspension settings? They make your bones rattle like there is no suspension.
Front preload (turns from open) was 5.5 >> set to 10.
Front rebound (clicks from fully closed) was 9 >> set to 8.
Rear preload (turns from open) was 1 ?? >> set to 17.
Rear rebound (turns from closed ) was 1.25 >> set to 1.

What a difference to the questionable factory setting.

 

[Bobo_Veverčák]

Close to hitting 4,000 miles now and I've been pretty disappointed with the Stelvio suspension. I left the forks at the settings it arrived with, dialled the rear shock damping right out as I had heard a journalist say that helped with the ride quality. Yes, that helped soften the atrocious city streets but left me bouncing my way through corners. Just a rubbish rear shock I thought.

Last week I took it to see a suspension specialist, Mark Hammond (mhracing.com). He bounced the back of the bike, rocked it against the front brakes and sighed. He then wound on both pre-load and damping front and rear, got me to sit on the bike to measure the sag, then made a couple of extra tweaks. I took it for test ride around the country roads near his workshop. What a change! What a great investment!

This weekend I took it for a 570 mile excursion to Lincolnshire to visit the Buell and Italian Event (lincsaviation.co.uk/events/uk-buell-and-italian-motorcycle-meet.htm). The suspension is really good now - a little on the firm side on broken roads for my ageing bum, but close to perfect elsewhere - I'm no longer thinking of a shock replacement. I really recommend this service from mhracing to anyone unhappy with their setup. I met a Mandello owner this weekend and suspension was his only gripe with the bike.

So for fellow Stelvio owners I backed out the settings to fully undone (anti-clockwise) and counted the turns:

Right Fork Damping: The screw clicks every sixth of a turn. Set it 10 clicks open from fully anti-clockwise (1.67 rotations)

Right Fork Pre-load: 19 half-turns and 1 quarter-turn from fully anti-clockwise (9.75 rotations)

Rear Shock Damping: 2 half-turns and 1 quarter-turn from fully anti-clockwise (1.25 rotations)

Rear Shock Pre-load: The knob clicks every half-turn. Set it 17 clicks clockwise from fully anti-clockwise (8.5 rotations)

I weigh around 86 kilos, 190 pounds in kit. His advice was not to touch the damping settings with pillion or passengers, just try another 10 clicks on the rear pre-load when fully loaded then adjust to suit.

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If any Stelvio owner wants to try these, I suggest you first make a note of your current setup. Please report your results.

Barney

Addendum: My weekend travels were done with panniers and after returning home further experimentation showed that reducing the rear shock damping setting by 0.5 turns gave better ride quality solo without allowing the bike to wallow in corners. I have adjusted the above figure accordingly, and coincidentally 1.25 turns is what the latest version of the manual recommends (see below comments thread).

Hello BioKnee, thank you very much for the suspension setup guide. I just finished it and will try it tomorrow. I have no experience with it. Great work.

 

[Gazdok]

Has anyone in the UK found / used a shorter spring for the rear shock?
I am trying to lower the rear a little as I am tipitoeing despite the lower comfort seat.

 

[GTM®]

Has anyone in the UK found / used a shorter spring for the rear shock?
I am trying to lower the rear a little as I am tipitoeing despite the lower comfort seat.

Shocks are lowered internally, not with the spring.

 

[Gazdok]

Shocks are lowered internally, not with the spring.

Can the stock shock be lowered in any way other than removing the preload?