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V7 III gearing?

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Hi Folks, a newbie to the V7 world (and hopefully a future owner) but a past Mille GT owner. 'Rode a demo V7 II once and liked it a bunch, but the gearing at highway speeds (let's say 75-ish) seemed quite short, straining the little bike needlessly. Now, I recall reading that when the V7 went from a 5 speed to a 6, top gear was virtually the same. Seems to me they could have made 6th a real 6th gear, not just tightening the gaps throughout (yup, I know that helps acceleration, but that's only good for riders who stay off the open interstates, which I can't). Anyway, I read that the new V7 III has altered 1st and 6th gears. Anyone have any actual numbers to compare? Or, maybe there's a way to swap out the final drive to a taller final ratio like I did on my K75S (from a busy 3.20 to a calm 2.81). Thanks!
 
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'17 V7 III
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my 2015 is very happy at 80-90 in 5th gear. yes it's wound up but that's where this engine needs to run. I've never gotten less than 50 MPG at that speed and it has more passing power there than my old EV ever dreamed of.
 
Thanks GT-Rx for posting the info (I made the small donation for viewing the manuals). Well I guess if we do the math and divide the old 6th ratio by the new, we get a 3.6% taller gear, which sounds great to me. Can't wait to try it. The middle gears are the same, but sure enough, the new 1st gear is taller by an even larger margin: maybe Guzzi figures the extra torque of the new III is enough to move it away from stops without 1st running out too quick.
 
vagrant said:
my 2015 is very happy at 80-90 in 5th gear. yes it's wound up but that's where this engine needs to run. I've never gotten less than 50 MPG at that speed and it has more passing power there than my old EV ever dreamed of.
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That is my experience with my new V7iii. I tend to back off from a full 90 more because I have no windshield than winding the motor out. My bike does not feel nearly as happy below 4k RPMs as it does above 4.5k rpms.
 
I'm with Socal and vagrant,my '16 Racer feels best at about 4.5k at 4k and below it feels like its bogging out.5th gear gets 85-90mph just fine,havent used 6th much at all.
 
ronaldo said:
Hi Folks, a newbie to the V7 world (and hopefully a future owner) but a past Mille GT owner. 'Rode a demo V7 II once and liked it a bunch, but the gearing at highway speeds (let's say 75-ish) seemed quite short, straining the little bike needlessly. Now, I recall reading that when the V7 went from a 5 speed to a 6, top gear was virtually the same. Seems to me they could have made 6th a real 6th gear, not just tightening the gaps throughout (yup, I know that helps acceleration, but that's only good for riders who stay off the open interstates, which I can't). Anyway, I read that the new V7 III has altered 1st and 6th gears. Anyone have any actual numbers to compare? Or, maybe there's a way to swap out the final drive to a taller final ratio like I did on my K75S (from a busy 3.20 to a calm 2.81). Thanks!
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I tend to agree, my V7(3) seems a bit short on gearing, however i would not want first gear much taller.
If i can read into GTM's post, it may be possible to swap out a 6th gear from a v7(3) into a v7(2), ?? but im not sure.
and it would be a lot of work for not much ratio change.

I hear other say "just spin it up", but i would rather keep RPM's a bit lower myself, and intuitively, the V7 feels like it has the torque for taller upper gearing.

So as first gear is about as tall as i want, changing the final drive ratio would not be a good solution, So a full set of custom gears would be the preferred path. however that cost would be hard pill to swallow, and would likely be a total loss if the bike is sold.

Looks like "spin it up" is optimum...(at least for me)


PS> i think the addition of the 820cc kit would make the ratio issue even more noticeable.
 
This goes back to my question of what RPM we are doing at what speed / gear. ( for us with No tachometer. :( )

Gearing is a huge part of how a bike/car feels;
- shorter gearing winds out quickly and may *Feel* fast but lowers the top speed and you might feel it's reeving a bit at hwy cruising speeds.
- Higher gearing and it might feel sluggish - but have a Harley like 2,500 RPM *idle* at 60 mph... BORRRING :rofl: !!!!!
 
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I use a 130/90 rear tire and the taller profile helps a little with dropping the revs.
Mind you, I live in SoCal and highway speeds are 80+
 
Louisv97 said:
I use a 130/90 rear tire and the taller profile helps a little with dropping the revs.
Mind you, I live in SoCal and highway speeds are 80+
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Oklahoma turn pikes are 85+ (for hours)
Missouri interstates are creeping up there as well... (but only 2 lane and full of 18 wheelers). it's getting nutz...
 
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