This thread will track modifications and adjustments to the suspension for your Custom and Tour. Please feel free to post/share your findings and settings that work for you.
1400 Custom
SHOCKS
STOCK INFO:
Front travel: 120mm / 3 = 40mm target total sag
Rear travel: 110mm / 3 = 36.6mm target total sag
Stock Settings
Front
Sag: ?
Rear:
Sag: ?
Reb:
Notes:
My info: My weight is ~190 lbs in street clothing.
The ride is somewhat compliant over general smooth road surfaces, harsh/edged bumps are horrible. Bike sits through most of it's travel even with corrected preload. Feel when riding it in the sporty mindset, produces non-compliance and little damping. I've slid the front end at times as the rear brake lever comes in solid contact with the paving. Downright scary IMO for any Sport Touring with any significant load or rider over say 170 lbs.
1400 Tour
Thanks to Rudy below...
Rear Shocks:
Static (only): 28.5mm
Laden: ?
Matris M40KC Piggybacks:
As delivered/set by Matris:
Unladen: 368mm
Static: 362mm
Laden: 349mm
Total: 19mm
Comp: -18 turns out from max
Reb: -20 turns out from max
Notes:
Firm but compliant ride that soaked up nearly everything including the sharp-edged bumps. These are top shelf suspension components, and the ride reflects this. If you want the best, this is at the top of the list. They are very well balanced with the Matris F12S Cartridge Fork Kit below. Click >HERE< for purchase info.
Matris M40D Standard Twin Emulsion Shocks:
As delivered/set by Matris:
Unladen: 371mm
Static: 360mm
Laden: 347mm
Total: 24mm
-4 full turns preload: Total: 32mm
Reb: -18 turns out from max
Notes:
Soft and compliant ride that soaked up nearly everything except the very sharp-edged bumps. Ride over the stock shocks is almost unbelievably better. They are almost on par with the RT's above. Very well balanced with the Matris F12S Cartridge Fork Kit below. Click >HERE< for purchase info.
FORKS
Matris F12S Cartridge Kit:
Installation is very straight forward outside of the fork cap removal, noted below. Drain the fork oil and remove spacers, springs and bottom bolts to remove cartridge internals.
Install the S Kit per the included instructions. *A THIN (~4mm or less) 19mm open wrench required*
Unladen: 390mm
Static: 370mm
Laden: 350mm
Total: 40mm - Target
Oil level w/fork tubes compressed and only valve installed (no springs or spacers): 120mm
Preload: 20 clicks = 10 full turns (instructions say +12 clicks) *28mm 6 pt. socket required*
Comp: +2 turns in from full soft (instructions say +20)
Rebound: +4 turns in from full soft (instructions say +20)
Notes:
Impressively compliant low speed damping for bumps. The ride is MUCH better in feel and feedback from the front tire. Encourages spirited riding with zero concern for bumps, mid corner corrections, etc. Really makes the bike feel lighter and far more stable. I would say in comparison to stock, the OEM forks feel like they have half the oil in them, and the springs are clearly improperly spec'ed for any solo rider above 170 lbs in gear. These coupled with any of the above shock options really makes for a balanced bike that allows you to enjoy it, and encourages you to ride it quicker, no matter how fast you go.
Fork Cap of the F12S Kit, spring preload and compression adjust on one, rebound on the other.
Removal of the stock cartridge fork cap as shown below. Compression of the spring required to access:
Sachs Fork Oil Level Info:
1400 Custom
SHOCKS
STOCK INFO:
Front travel: 120mm / 3 = 40mm target total sag
Rear travel: 110mm / 3 = 36.6mm target total sag
Stock Settings
Front
Sag: ?
Rear:
Sag: ?
Reb:
Notes:
My info: My weight is ~190 lbs in street clothing.
The ride is somewhat compliant over general smooth road surfaces, harsh/edged bumps are horrible. Bike sits through most of it's travel even with corrected preload. Feel when riding it in the sporty mindset, produces non-compliance and little damping. I've slid the front end at times as the rear brake lever comes in solid contact with the paving. Downright scary IMO for any Sport Touring with any significant load or rider over say 170 lbs.
1400 Tour
Thanks to Rudy below...
Rear Shocks:
Static (only): 28.5mm
Laden: ?
Matris M40KC Piggybacks:
As delivered/set by Matris:
Unladen: 368mm
Static: 362mm
Laden: 349mm
Total: 19mm
Comp: -18 turns out from max
Reb: -20 turns out from max
Notes:
Firm but compliant ride that soaked up nearly everything including the sharp-edged bumps. These are top shelf suspension components, and the ride reflects this. If you want the best, this is at the top of the list. They are very well balanced with the Matris F12S Cartridge Fork Kit below. Click >HERE< for purchase info.
Matris M40D Standard Twin Emulsion Shocks:
As delivered/set by Matris:
Unladen: 371mm
Static: 360mm
Laden: 347mm
Total: 24mm
-4 full turns preload: Total: 32mm
Reb: -18 turns out from max
Notes:
Soft and compliant ride that soaked up nearly everything except the very sharp-edged bumps. Ride over the stock shocks is almost unbelievably better. They are almost on par with the RT's above. Very well balanced with the Matris F12S Cartridge Fork Kit below. Click >HERE< for purchase info.
FORKS
Matris F12S Cartridge Kit:
Installation is very straight forward outside of the fork cap removal, noted below. Drain the fork oil and remove spacers, springs and bottom bolts to remove cartridge internals.
Install the S Kit per the included instructions. *A THIN (~4mm or less) 19mm open wrench required*
Unladen: 390mm
Static: 370mm
Laden: 350mm
Total: 40mm - Target
Oil level w/fork tubes compressed and only valve installed (no springs or spacers): 120mm
Preload: 20 clicks = 10 full turns (instructions say +12 clicks) *28mm 6 pt. socket required*
Comp: +2 turns in from full soft (instructions say +20)
Rebound: +4 turns in from full soft (instructions say +20)
Notes:
Impressively compliant low speed damping for bumps. The ride is MUCH better in feel and feedback from the front tire. Encourages spirited riding with zero concern for bumps, mid corner corrections, etc. Really makes the bike feel lighter and far more stable. I would say in comparison to stock, the OEM forks feel like they have half the oil in them, and the springs are clearly improperly spec'ed for any solo rider above 170 lbs in gear. These coupled with any of the above shock options really makes for a balanced bike that allows you to enjoy it, and encourages you to ride it quicker, no matter how fast you go.
Fork Cap of the F12S Kit, spring preload and compression adjust on one, rebound on the other.
Removal of the stock cartridge fork cap as shown below. Compression of the spring required to access:
Sachs Fork Oil Level Info:
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