V100 saddlebags note and warning!

[Kevin.NZ]

The matching locks for the V100s panniers were given to me by the dealer when I purchased the bike, I have also done what Tonym suggested using "bungs" I attached mine to the pannier handles so they don't go missing.

 

[tocino]

I'm picking my cases up at the dealer on Saturday - I was thinking of riding down and installing them there. Do I just need a metric socket set and ratchet to put the footpeg brackets on? Anything else? I assume it comes with locks pre-installed? I have the matched ones under the seat but will wait to do that.
[I looked under resources but didn't find the installation guide in case someone has a PDF version handy ]

 

[Kevin.NZ]

My cases arrived at the dealers with the locks in a plastic bag, 10 torx screws and an instruction sheet. I picked them up in my car and assembled them in the comfort of my own home.

 

[tocino]

Hmmm. Thanks - maybe I'll do the same since dealing with the locks may require more "fettling" then bolting some brackets up.

 

[Cloner]

The instructions are available on the accessory side of the Piaggio dealers’ site, so they can definitely download and print them if you ask. You can put the lower brackets onto the footpeg mounts and ride home with no locks installed at all, if you like, so you have access to more tools. The locks are not bad to install, but you’ll need a torx bit at a minimum. Sorry…it’s been a few weeks since I installed a set. The top box is a little more complex as you have to pull the lock cylinder out of it’s native housing to put it into the top case, so it is a little harder, but side cases are pretty simple.

 

[tocino]

Thanks - I decided to pick them up in the car so I could take my time - easier than doing it on the sidewalk too

 

[dcarl]

Hey there,
I have a new 2024 Stelvio and bought the top and side hard cases a couple months after I got it. Last week was riding with my wife had to pull over and stop on a slightly uphill narrow road to let another car through, and when I started off, turned a little too far out to get back onto the road very slowly and yes, slowly tipped over and off we went. The bike, just dropped down on its side. The side hard case actually probably stopped the bike from crunching my wife’s leg . This was the left-hand side bag, the larger one. Cracked the case fairly severely, no way to repair it.To my dismay, it’s not as easy to just go back to Moto Guzzi ann order the left side case. My dealer says they don’t sell them separately only as a pair! Pretty crazy. Anybody have experience with that? Would love to hear if anybody was able to just find a single side case out there. Thanks so much.

 

[Raven]

I think if you read this thread from the beginning you'll get some answers.

 

[BDS]

… Would love to hear if anybody was able to just find a single side case out there. Thanks so much.

I seem to remember reading the Mandello and Stelvio (Guzzi) hard bags are interchangeable. And, perhaps that’s why you posted here. If so, check post #157 in this thread. If he still has them, you might luck out.

 

[South Westerly]

I lost a right side pannier. Luckily a gent on here had lost a left hand one so had a spare right. They can only be bought as a pair. We both ended up winning. He recouped the cost of having to buy 2 when he only needed one and I got one for considerably less than the pair. You'll need to be lucky.

 

[FredTaht]

I really liked John in PA’s solution to give the luggage extra security by pinning them at the front mount. I however wanted to make the job more “invisible”. So I decided to try the pin technique from inside the seat where the bag attaches. On each side I drilled a 1/8” hole through the front posts of the luggage that enter under the seat. (Silver sharpied) I also drilled a 7/32” hole through the ancillary plastic as an attachment point for my pin lanyards (so they live under the seat). I found 3mm(7/32”)x 25mm long Lynch pins on Amazon that have a locking/folding ring and secured them with a 7” wrist lanyard I had. They are just enough to prevent the post from slipping out in the event the luggage comes loose. A cotter pin would work too, if you are going to leave the luggage on full time. I’m pleased with the clean look and hope to never “test” them out.

 

[gabbydad]

I really liked John in PA’s solution to give the luggage extra security by pinning them at the front mount. I however wanted to make the job more “invisible”. So I decided to try the pin technique from inside the seat where the bag attaches. On each side I drilled a 1/8” hole through the front posts of the luggage that enter under the seat. (Silver sharpied) I also drilled a 7/32” hole through the ancillary plastic as an attachment point for my pin lanyards (so they live under the seat). I found 3mm(7/32”)x 25mm long Lynch pins on Amazon that have a locking/folding ring and secured them with a 7” wrist lanyard I had. They are just enough to prevent the post from slipping out in the event the luggage comes loose. A cotter pin would work too, if you are going to leave the luggage on full time. I’m pleased with the clean look and hope to never “test” them out.View attachment 38240View attachment 38241View attachment 38242View attachment 38239

Great Job Fred, looks great!

 

[mhcarnevali]

Finally had time to do a more thorough investigation. I found that the bags tend to rest on the rear pin and the rear footpeg mount when you are installng the bags. The weight of the bag resting on these two points tend to rotate the bag when you release your hands to push the bags forward to lock them in. This pulls the front pin out so it doesn't engage with the seat lock. Having weight in the bags exaserbates the problem. Make sure you push in on the top forward part of the bag with one hand while you are pushing the bag forward with the other hand. It is very hard to push them forward so you tend to use both hands. Use lubricant on the slides and hit the back of the bag with your knee if you need more leverage. Then lock the seat down. Will likely need your knee to get them off too. Hopefully they will loosen up with use. Good luck!

When I picked up the bike, the dealer rep and I struggled to get them off the first time. We discovered the best way to get them off after removing the seat was to position yourself next to the seat, hold the pannier handle, and give a slight bump with your outside leg knee into the pannier towards the rear of the bike. Not too hard but hard enough that it come right off. And I would recommend doing it when you’re wearing your riding pants so the knee protector protects you and the pannier. Took some practice but I’ve got it down so it’s a fluid motion. I’m assuming over time they will become easier to remove.

 

[t-bills]

I suppose the brackets could be put on the wrong side but it seemed to me which side they should go on. My packages weren't labeled as to which side. The directions, i.e. drawings or pictures weren't very clear. Also if you haven't done yours yet, be careful of the tape holding the handles in. If a handle comes out the spring may drop off and it is quite confusing how it is supposed to fit. My biggest issue was the tumblers. I don't what I did wrong but the key slots are 90* out from each other. I tried fixing it but gave up after a couple of tries. A fair amount of disassembly has to take place to get to the locks. I fixed them so that they can be opened and closed without the key. I live in an area where locking stuff isn't always necessary. Loggers leave their expensive Stihl chain saws out in the open in the back of their trucks.
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Mind sharing what you did to the lock to make it so the bags can be opened without the key? I'm sure there is something minor that can be done to the lock core, I'm just not sure what.

 

[Kevin.NZ]

I really liked John in PA’s solution to give the luggage extra security by pinning them at the front mount. I however wanted to make the job more “invisible”. So I decided to try the pin technique from inside the seat where the bag attaches. On each side I drilled a 1/8” hole through the front posts of the luggage that enter under the seat. (Silver sharpied) I also drilled a 7/32” hole through the ancillary plastic as an attachment point for my pin lanyards (so they live under the seat). I found 3mm(7/32”)x 25mm long Lynch pins on Amazon that have a locking/folding ring and secured them with a 7” wrist lanyard I had. They are just enough to prevent the post from slipping out in the event the luggage comes loose. A cotter pin would work too, if you are going to leave the luggage on full time. I’m pleased with the clean look and hope to never “test” them out.View attachment 38240View attachment 38241View attachment 38242View attachment 38239

Hey Fred, doesn't the seat fitting get fouled by the lynch pin.

 

[FredTaht]

Kevin, It’s only 7/32” long and when in the hole sticks up maybe 1/8”. It has not interfered with the seat closure at all. The luggage post is pretty far down.

 

[Wild Bill Jones]

Got my bags from Piaggio ( finally) and I got inner bags from Alberto at Motorcycle Passion. Nice stuff and Alberto sent the inners quickly. I’m ready to go! Oops, I’m in Montana. Soon

 

[Nauti-Guzzi]

I just read all the postings on this thread, and I'm glad it was here. I recently bought the 2023 V100 with the cases. As many others have lamented, I didn't receive any instructions for them and couldn't figure out the routine for removing them. I searched the owner's manual, internet, youtube - no joy. I didn't want to use too much force and break some plastic bits. Fortunately, the answers were here and I didn't have to call the dealer to ask how to do something that was probably straightforward and obvious. Thanks for all the tips, folks!

 

[WynnD]

I got the stock panniers too. Put 20,000 miles on the bike last summer touring and while install and removal involves beating them some with my fist, No problem, i am extra careful installing them so everything is in the right place before I force them forward enough to lock with the pillion seat. I also check to see if my finger fits where the spikes go before I attempt to put the seat back on. I'm looking forward to another 20,000 miles this summer too. At my age, we don't know how much time is left.

 

[Jean Doublet]

Good day from Europe. After 15 years in the U.S. I've now gone back home (that is France) and acquired nine months ago a Stelvio V100 to replace my V85TT. I had ordered the OEM side bags with it and much to my dismay I lost the right one after a few days while riding with my better half as pillion. Nor I or she saw it falling off and the bag was never retrieved. I was already quite skeptical about the quality of the set having had to bang quite hard on it to install and remove them (and so had the dealer when he installed the set in front of me). When told that they could only be bought in pair to replace the missing one , I went aftermarket and bought a set of extensible Shad SH38X (very good bags BTW) with their dedicated attachment frame (out goes the aesthetic, in comes the peace of mind) .
The point of my post is that at least three Stelvio V100 owners on a site I belong to in France (including me) have suffered the same fate, and all of them lost the right case. I am a quite experienced rider and rode a lot of bikes with bags on them (hard or soft) and it's the first time one goes missing. I blame Guzzi for making attaching their bags on the V100/Stelvio models complicated and prone to failure if a check list is not properly observed before riding. The suggestions on the French site are the same as here (heavy use of silicone products to make installation easier and attaching pin on the passenger footrest) but having to drill into a new bike to make sure an OEM piece of equipement is properly secured is IMHO not normal. So beware.