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Hi all. I am Joakim. I am new here. I have been riding, tuning modifying Ducatis for a long time.
Now I am however starting to grow up and I want to build a nice caferacer. As we all know the coolest caferacers are Guzzis so I have some questions regarding the doner bike.
If I understand it correct the Guzzis that are interesting as a base are "tonti framed". The question are which bikes are tonti framed?
Le Mans, California, 1000SP are all Tontis or?
What are the differences except for the obvious between this bikes? If i look at Californias people are almost giving them away for free and I like cheap. Here are some examples. Prices are in "swiss dollars". One "Swiss dollar" is about 1.1 US dollar.
California
http://en.comparis.ch/motorrad/marktpla ... iii/389144
http://en.comparis.ch/motorrad/marktpla ... 0-c/325965
http://www.motorradhandel.ch/detail/det ... t=zofingen
Here is a SP1000
1000SP
http://www.motorradhandel.ch/detail/det ... &auswahl=2
Le Mans
http://www.motorradhandel.ch/detail/det ... &auswahl=2
So to my questions. Is it any difference at all between the frames on California, 1000SP and Le mans?
Engines? I like big. The bigger the better as I like a lot of torque. Later Californias are 1100cc and that sounds attractive but as they are cruisers I guess that they are tuned for low end grunt and might be a bit agricultury.
What is the difference to a Le Mans engine? Cams, valve size, port shape, compression? Can a California be upgraded to Le Mans status and if so what is needed? Just the heads and what will the gain be?
What about a 1000SP? Is it the same as a 1000cc Le Mans engine?
How about suspension? I guess that a Le Mans has the best suspension, what about the 1000SP suspension? Is it any good? Can the suspension parts be transferred to a California?
What about brakes? Are they the same? If not does Le Mans disks and calipers fit a california or a 1000SP?
To make it short, what should I look for? Here are the differences that I think is important with plus and minus.
California.
+ cheap, 1100cc, spoke wheels.
- suspension, "detuned engine"
1000SP
+cheapish
-1000cc, no spoke rims, suspension maybe?
Le Mans
+Suspension, brakes, higher tuned engine
- expensive, no spoke rims, 1000cc
Any inputs is good as I am all new to the Guzzi world.
Thanks in advance.
Jocke...........
Now I am however starting to grow up and I want to build a nice caferacer. As we all know the coolest caferacers are Guzzis so I have some questions regarding the doner bike.
If I understand it correct the Guzzis that are interesting as a base are "tonti framed". The question are which bikes are tonti framed?
Le Mans, California, 1000SP are all Tontis or?
What are the differences except for the obvious between this bikes? If i look at Californias people are almost giving them away for free and I like cheap. Here are some examples. Prices are in "swiss dollars". One "Swiss dollar" is about 1.1 US dollar.
California
http://en.comparis.ch/motorrad/marktpla ... iii/389144
http://en.comparis.ch/motorrad/marktpla ... 0-c/325965
http://www.motorradhandel.ch/detail/det ... t=zofingen
Here is a SP1000
1000SP
http://www.motorradhandel.ch/detail/det ... &auswahl=2
Le Mans
http://www.motorradhandel.ch/detail/det ... &auswahl=2
So to my questions. Is it any difference at all between the frames on California, 1000SP and Le mans?
Engines? I like big. The bigger the better as I like a lot of torque. Later Californias are 1100cc and that sounds attractive but as they are cruisers I guess that they are tuned for low end grunt and might be a bit agricultury.
What is the difference to a Le Mans engine? Cams, valve size, port shape, compression? Can a California be upgraded to Le Mans status and if so what is needed? Just the heads and what will the gain be?
What about a 1000SP? Is it the same as a 1000cc Le Mans engine?
How about suspension? I guess that a Le Mans has the best suspension, what about the 1000SP suspension? Is it any good? Can the suspension parts be transferred to a California?
What about brakes? Are they the same? If not does Le Mans disks and calipers fit a california or a 1000SP?
To make it short, what should I look for? Here are the differences that I think is important with plus and minus.
California.
+ cheap, 1100cc, spoke wheels.
- suspension, "detuned engine"
1000SP
+cheapish
-1000cc, no spoke rims, suspension maybe?
Le Mans
+Suspension, brakes, higher tuned engine
- expensive, no spoke rims, 1000cc
Any inputs is good as I am all new to the Guzzi world.
Thanks in advance.
Jocke...........