Anyone know why there are no hazard lights on the V100? I thought it would be a legal requirement these days.This is the only bike I have had in recent years that seems to not have them.
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Hazard lights.
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So, I finally got around to reading the owner's manual regarding the dash, previously just jumped around the topics. Here is an interesting thing, there are two instances where all 4 turn indicators will come on;
p31 - if there is an ECU disconnect failure the electronics cause the 'hazard' lights to come on to warn drivers behind the bike of a problem.
p51 - a menu configurable setting where if the braking is extreme the hazard lights are activated (briefly I presume).
So the ECU has the ability to trigger hazard lights as we know them, surely MG can get a software engineer to provide an update to give us a menu option to do it manually? It is as much a safety feature as ABS.
Is this too logical? Have I lost my mind?
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p31 - if there is an ECU disconnect failure the electronics cause the 'hazard' lights to come on to warn drivers behind the bike of a problem.
p51 - a menu configurable setting where if the braking is extreme the hazard lights are activated (briefly I presume).
So the ECU has the ability to trigger hazard lights as we know them, surely MG can get a software engineer to provide an update to give us a menu option to do it manually? It is as much a safety feature as ABS.
Is this too logical? Have I lost my mind?
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If I may add my two cents here, most vehicles I know has possibility of leaving position lights on and taking ignition key away. Just in case you need leave vehicle in some dark place where visibility would be advised.
And if I remember correctly Breva had an ignition position where steering lock would be engaged, position lights on and possibility of removing ignition key. Also my BMW R1200R has a combination of buttons, which for a love of God I could never remember but the result would be steering lock on, lights on.
Can’t see such a feature here.
And if I remember correctly Breva had an ignition position where steering lock would be engaged, position lights on and possibility of removing ignition key. Also my BMW R1200R has a combination of buttons, which for a love of God I could never remember but the result would be steering lock on, lights on.
Can’t see such a feature here.
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It is not a feature of this motorcycle or any other Piaggio product that shares this TFT platform. My 2023 Piaggio MP3 530 HPE is the platform that Piaggio took the switchgear and TFT from (been on the scooters since 2021) to put on the Moto Guzzi V100 platform, and it also does not have a hazard light function any longer.
I suspect it is because when the dashboard is active, it is a "Power Pig". Yes the TFT looks fantastic but man does she draw power like crazy. The hazards would keep the dash active and the drain would quickly discharge the battery.
Even in the owners manual, there is a strong caution to not let the bike sit energized without starting the engine as the battery will quickly drain out.
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You may on to something here. While back I was checking parasite draw and also checked current with key on, it was around 6 Amp. Didn’t think much of it then but it’s really huge. Can’t remember was it with ignition button on or off, was it just electronics or fuel pump and ignition coils as well. In any case the current draw is big.
But lack of hazard light is pretty inconvenient. Over here they work not only as a park anywhere button but also as a thank you sign. Someone lets you in from the side or allows to cut in front of him you switch hazards for 2-3 flashes. Just good manners.
But lack of hazard light is pretty inconvenient. Over here they work not only as a park anywhere button but also as a thank you sign. Someone lets you in from the side or allows to cut in front of him you switch hazards for 2-3 flashes. Just good manners.
I think there is a way in the menu to turn the hazard lights on. But as already mentioned I wouldn't leave them on but for a short period for an emergency stop. I can go look but I am not yet real proficient with the menus yet.
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Many modern high end bikes have TFT's and hazard lights. If others, like my Triumph Tiger, can do it why not Guzzi? Battery drain is a cop out IMO.
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If there is an alarm connector for an accessory alarm then as per the V7 850 you just need to short 2 pins together with a momentary contact button. Caveats as per Scott's probably still apply.
.....yep, I can read and had seen it. The point being it is not genius to design a motorcycle that has both ...is it?Thanks for that tip - I will take a look at that. If the hazard lights need to be left flashing, I'm likely to have bigger issues on my mind than a flat battery, just sayin'...... and the motor can be left running.
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Wasn't put there for you specifically. It was put there for anybody who was reading the thread.
Electricity in a closed system like a battery, is finite. TFT displays are cool with all those colors and graphics but that comes at a price, Amperage. Having emergency flashers is a nice touch and I wish it was there but for whatever reason they decided it wasn't to be on this model. Life goes on.
Alternatively, many might argue hazard lights are a safety feature rather than a nice touch and Guzzi missed the boat on it.
Triumph understood what you said about closed loops and batteries, though I was a tad perplexed, and once the hazards are on the ignition can then be turned off. Imagine that!
But it ain't got no winglets..
... a question of priorities perhaps.I still like the V100 a lot, but the design is not beyond critique.
But life goes on. Enough.
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This post got me thinking so I have checked my other (fairly) new bikes.
BMW R1200R and Benelli 400, in both the current with key on, ignition off is about 1,0-1,5 Amp. In Guzzi around 6 Amps. OK, the LCD screens in both are way, way smaller but the difference is shocking.
Would someone be willing to check amperage on his motor? Just to make sure I don’t have a hidden problem.
The older Guzzi public might remember the saga with starter motor in around 2006-2010 models. What the epic it was.
Anyhow, I don’t buy Guzzis for the engineering, I buy them for the looks.
And they DO deliver.
BMW R1200R and Benelli 400, in both the current with key on, ignition off is about 1,0-1,5 Amp. In Guzzi around 6 Amps. OK, the LCD screens in both are way, way smaller but the difference is shocking.
Would someone be willing to check amperage on his motor? Just to make sure I don’t have a hidden problem.
The older Guzzi public might remember the saga with starter motor in around 2006-2010 models. What the epic it was.
Anyhow, I don’t buy Guzzis for the engineering, I buy them for the looks.
And they DO deliver.
The V100 service manual states that with the ignition switch on and engine stopped the current draw should be 3.372 amps.
I’ve checked again, with two different mustimeters. Admittedly those mustimeters are not high end but some cheap knock offs but both give pretty much same readings and I use them pretty often with no complaints.
With key on and ignition on there is 6.5 Amp draw. Too much.
Mystery continues.
With key on and ignition on there is 6.5 Amp draw. Too much.
Mystery continues.
