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New 2022 V7 Stone Alignment Issues

ChupaThingy

ChupaThingy

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Greetings gents,

Having an issue with my new, almost 2000 mile V7.
Purchased new about 2 months back and been commuting on it ever since.

Have noticed over about the past 2 weeks I have a slight lean about 5-10 degrees to the left when I'm cruising at highway speeds, lower speeds it's not as noticeable. Did some reading, checked the forks and front/rear wheels, handlebars for alignment and everything looks fine. Loosened and re-torqued the triples, front axle, etc.. and it's having no effect on the lean I'm experiencing.
Had also taken the bike to AF1 here in Austin and had the tech tell me they didn't notice anything wrong during a test ride; Had a friend of mine ride it and ended up noticing the same lean I mentioned.
Completely stock bike aside from a fly-screen and the OEM center stand, bike hasn't been beaten on or dropped.

Anyone else noting any lean?
Had about 26k miles on my 2015 V7 and never had any sort of problem with it.
 
My V7-Stone has 10,666 kM showing on the speedometer (approximately 6,000 miles). No issues with a tendancy to lean either way.

You might want to return it to AF1 and get another staff member to take it for a test ride. Something is not quite right, and it might lead to something more serious.

Has it had it's first service yet?
 
kiwi dave said:
My V7-Stone has 10,666 kM showing on the speedometer (approximately 6,000 miles). No issues with a tendancy to lean either way.

You might want to return it to AF1 and get another staff member to take it for a test ride. Something is not quite right, and it might lead to something more serious.

Has it had it's first service yet?
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Hey Dave, sure has.
 
Update on this-
Returned to AF1 and spoke with the tech and service manager who were both great to work with, explained everything to them and had the tech ride the bike.

He was unable to reproduce the lean that occurs when I'm operating the bike, but we did discuss the fact the my tires are visibly worn on the left side (front and rear) and came to the conclusion that the county roads I commute on could be accelerating the wear due to the camber/slope of these poorly maintained roads. This is primarily where the bike gets ridden every day.
 
ChupaThingy said:
Update on this-
Returned to AF1 and spoke with the tech and service manager who were both great to work with, explained everything to them and had the tech ride the bike.

He was unable to reproduce the lean that occurs when I'm operating the bike, but we did discuss the fact the my tires are visibly worn on the left side (front and rear) and came to the conclusion that the county roads I commute on could be accelerating the wear due to the camber/slope of these poorly maintained roads. This is primarily where the bike gets ridden every day.
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BMW used that excuse on early K bikes. The same wear pattern was observed in Australia and Great Britain so that argument is out the window. I found the wheel offset on the early Ks was the cause. Fitting a thin spacer between the frame mount point and gearbox fixed the uneven wear. I suspect something is off. Is the rear swing arm properly centered?
 
john zibell said:
I suspect something is off. Is the rear swing arm properly centered?
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John, I am not tooled up to check this at my house. I will be returning to the shop in a few weeks to get different tires mounted and will have them check while its there. I have mentioned the alignment to them twice now and they have yet to put it on the stand to actually check it..
 
Alrighty, so just made it back from the shop and got the new tires mounted up.
Mile 1 on the new rubber and still having the same lean.

Measurements from inside swingarm to outside of gearbox @swingarm pivot -
Right side- .132"
Left Side- .232"

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Get one of them to follow you while you are on your bike.
then switch bikes , have the guy on your bike following you on the *Normal* bike?
If it’s noticeable they should be able to see the difference …
 
You’ve bought 2 of these. From AF1?

Do they have another one there you can test ride a couple miles onto just to see if you feel the same thing on a different but same model motorcycle?

Surely they would extend that courtesy to you I would think.
 
scottmastrocinque said:
You’ve bought 2 of these. From AF1?

Do they have another one there you can test ride a couple miles onto just to see if you feel the same thing on a different but same model motorcycle?

Surely they would extend that courtesy to you I would think.
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Yessir, second V7 from them over the years.
What you mentioned was going to be my next route!

I'll post an update of my findings after turkey day
 
DeadEye said:
i was suggesting they follow your bike to observe the anomaly
the follow a Normal bike while riding his to see if the can tell the difference..
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Hey DeadEye, I dig your idea as well. Going to chat with the tech about trying this as well if they have the time while I'm there. Probably get them to pop on a gopro so we can get some footage for comparison
 
If your riding position is not centered on the bike it could cause what you are experiencing. Weight shift impacts effective lean and if you aren't centered, your bike may drift.
 
Update on these shenanigans-

Had one of the techs ride along with me last week and recorded our trip on a go pro. I could feel and see the lean while riding along but he could not. We sat down and watched the footage afterward to see if it was noticeable from his perspective and we both agreed that it doesn't appear to be leaning...

Have an appointment setup for the 27th, the shop is going to get it on the stand and fully go through the bike and check the alignment, we shall see what the verdict is. Ridden a buddies bike since the last post and didn't have a lean on it.. (thought it could just be that I'm broken, not the bike..)
 
Sounds like you are mistakenly convinced.

Maybe you need to trust the mechanics who keep telling you that there is nothing wrong.

You do realize that your cylinders ARE NOT in the same plane?

One is in front of the other.
 
scottmastrocinque said:
Sounds like you are mistakenly convinced.

Maybe you need to trust the mechanics who keep telling you that there is nothing wrong.

You do realize that your cylinders ARE NOT in the same plane?

One is in front of the other.
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I very well may be.. I do have a tendency to over analyze things..
I'm just to the point where I am thoroughly confused, seeing as my buddies V7 does not have this lean sensation.

My old V7 never did this.
I digress, I'll let you know what happens
 
Two things, in the USA since we drive on the right side of the road and most roads are made so water drains to the shoulder and we’re actually wearing down the left side more, the other thing is if your bike was leaning you’d be turning!
 
So!

Finally got to the bottom of everything. Tech at the shop had it running on the dyno to weed out any potential frame/wheel misalignment. After checking everything over and taking measurements from fixed points on the frame & suspension found that the OEM rubber mounted bar risers were the issue, there was a 1" difference between the bar end and frame point on the left side compared to the right. They got it straightened out best they could but the rubber cone washers on the left side of the mount were pinched in there at a weird angle. (I personally never messed with this..)
They recommended either swapping the rubber cones out with aluminum ones and/or switching over to solid mounts to eliminate the issue entirely.

Glad it was something stupid that I happened to overlook and not an issue with the chassis/frame!
No more leans after the adjustment at the shop!
:drunk:
 
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