Question to GTM regarding the V85 motor.

[NuckaMan]

Without revealing too much, what is your opinions and thoughts about power/displacement upgrades on the V85 motor architecture? Can we expect some go-fast goodies coming down the pipeline?

 

[GTM®]

Without revealing too much, what is your opinions and thoughts about power/displacement upgrades on the V85 motor architecture? Can we expect some go-fast goodies coming down the pipeline?

I haven't been able to pull the cylinders off of a V85 engine yet, but my hope is that they set it up to go with a bigger bore. The (newer) 2V hemi-head is quite efficient, with large titanium valves. Much like the V7 III engine, about all that can be (cost effectively) done, is to increase the bore, and 84 mm has been the max so far; The same as the stock V85, V9 and my forged V7 big-bore piston size.
There's nothing to be had as to volumetric flow with the cylinder heads unless you're racing, or if Guzzi chooses to go to overhead cams with 4-valves. The older Lario push-rod 4v design was good, flow wise, as is the current OHC 8V. My pipe-dream would be to do my own cylinder head, like the Maserati engine below.
They also currently have to deal with brutal thermal dynamics related to emissions.
Galluzzi told me in late 2018, that even though the nuovo small block resembles the older small block motor, they completely re-designed it from the inside out for strength, as it was never intended when produced in the late 70's as an affordable V35 (350cc) machine. I understand it from a compact powerplant perspective, compared to all other brands. Let's hope they have more in store that they haven't unveiled yet. In the past, this was an evolution they simply wouldn't do.
On the 1200-8V engine, Piaggio evolved it with quite a few surprising (and costly) things, without really telling anyone about them. As I discover more, I'll post.
If anyone reading this can tell us more about the V85 motor than I know... please post.

This is a fascinating tech video to watch... Maserati MC20 - 630 hp 3.0-Litre TwinTurbo Engine

 

[Louisv97]

I haven't been able to pull the cylinders off of a V85 engine yet, but my hope is that they set it up to go with a bigger bore. The (newer) 2V hemi-head is quite efficient, with large titanium valves. Much like the V7 III engine, about all that can be (cost effectively) done, is to increase the bore, and 84 mm has been the max so far; The same as the stock V85, V9 and my forged V7 big-bore piston size.
There's nothing to be had as to volumetric flow with the cylinder heads unless you're racing, or if Guzzi chooses to go to overhead cams with 4-valves. The older Lario push-rod 4v design was good, flow wise, as is the current OHC 8V. My pipe-dream would be to do my own cylinder head, like the Maserati engine below.
They also currently have to deal with brutal thermal dynamics related to emissions.
Galluzzi told me in late 2018, that even though the nuovo small block resembles the older small block motor, they completely re-designed it from the inside out for strength, as it was never intended when produced in the late 70's as an affordable V35 (350cc) machine. I understand it from a compact powerplant perspective, compared to all other brands. Let's hope they have more in store that they haven't unveiled yet. In the past, this was an evolution they simply wouldn't do.
On the 1200-8V engine, Piaggio evolved it with quite a few surprising (and costly) things, without really telling anyone about them. As I discover more, I'll post.
If anyone reading this can tell us more about the V85 motor than I know... please post.

This is a fascinating tech video to watch... Maserati MC20 - 630 hp 3.0-Litre TwinTurbo Engine

Would it be able to retrofit some of the internals of the V85TT onto the v7iii?

 

[GTM®]

Would it be able to retrofit some of the internals of the V85TT onto the v7iii?

Possibly, but would not be very cost effective I might wager.

 

[dale decrescenzo]

interesting video...
I did notice that Masser is not using plated cylinders ..... YEA ....

 

[scottmastrocinque]

This is a fascinating tech video to watch... Maserati MC20 - 630 hp 3.0-Litre TwinTurbo Engine

Mary, Joseph, and Jesus!

215 CV per liter of displacement!

OMG. Yes, please.