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V7 Fuel Filter Not Replaceable?

Discussion in 'V7/V85/V9 Chat & Tech' started by Mayakovski, May 13, 2019.

  1. aproud1

    aproud1 Tuned and Synch'ed

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    I vented my tank and when disconnecting the line only got around 10 - 15 ml of fuel. Had a rag there anyway because I expected more.
     
  2. DeadEye

    DeadEye High Miler GT di Razza Pura

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    Watching someone do it "On TV" and doing it your self - are close but Not quite the same :eek:

    I saw this guy on TV Jump a motorcycle over a whole bunch of School buses and he landed it no problem - I couldn't even do one car without coming off the bike :blush:

    Ill give it a try in the spring after I run the *Winter* gas out of the tank.
    Maybe I should keep watching the Video and try some visualization of taking the assembly out in my sleep...:think:
     
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  3. vagrant

    vagrant GT Reference

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    the 2017 is different. no problem at all and no pressure relief needed. just push in and pull it apart. actually, my 2015 was almost as easy.
     
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  4. David Bracey

    David Bracey Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Good to know. Thanks. Mine are both 2011 bikes
     
  5. DominoDoggy

    DominoDoggy Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    The fuel tank removal/reinstall is a simple task, but simple isn't always easy. The lack of familiarity with doing the task makes it more difficult than it would be if I had done it many times before.

    Just be patient and be careful not to break the red plastic fuel connector. As others have stated, it's easier to remove if you relieve pressure in the system. I disconnected the fuel pump and tried to start the engine, but mine wouldn't start without fuel pump pressure. So, I ended up having to reconnect the fuel pump, ignition key on, start the engine, then disconnect the fuel pump while the engine was running to have it sputter and die. Afterwards, the fuel pressure was relieved.

    It's a lot of working in cramped spaces, getting your arms around and under a tank with very little clearance, to disconnect and then reconnect everything.

    Then, once you get it off you have to deal with taking the fuel pump out of the tank. It's once again, simple but not necessarily easy for those unfamiliar with the task. I had to be a little less than gentle with mine to get it removed. I found I was babying the pump too much, you have to wiggle it so the fuel lines clear the tank sides, and that took a little more effort than "barely moving it" - just carefully watch every move you make, and be careful. Applying sufficient pressure to get the pump out is not the same as carelessly brute forcing things around. Be an iron fist in a silk glove, is the general idea.
     
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  6. James Dixon

    James Dixon Just got it firing!

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    Are those the Oeticker clamps? If so, are they the 11.3 size? if so, do you have a part# for them by chance?

    Also, do you need the branded Oeticker tool to install those or will any set of pliers work? I've read conflicting stories.

    thanks
    james
     
  7. DominoDoggy

    DominoDoggy Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Those are 1/2 inch Oetiker style clamps, I'm not sure of the metric size. I got the tool with clamps from Amazon, it was sold as "IWISS Pex Pipe Clamp Cinch Tool for Stainless Steel Clamps 3/8 inch to 1 inch with 1/2 inch 20pcs and 3/4 inch 10pcs SS Pex Clamps" you can likely search for that exact title and find it.

    I replaced the nylon fuel line on the pump assembly with good quality new 5/16" internal diameter (half inch outer diameter) high pressure fuel hose, and the 1/2" clamps worked perfectly. The 1/2" clamps that came with my tool purchase were too large for the original nylon fuel hose so I went ahead and replaced it because I couldn't source smaller clamps locally. Figured it was a good time to replace the six-year old fuel line in the pump anyway, hopefully I'll never have to open it again.

    You can source 3/8" Pex Clamps from Amazon as well which would likely work with the OEM fuel lines.
     
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    vagrant GT Reference

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    I hope you bought the "high class" submersible fuel line.
     
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    DominoDoggy Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    I hope so too. I couldn't find a lot of specs on what I got but, what I did find states "resists permeation" and I specifically told NAPA that I needed an in-tank submersible 5/16" ID line and this is what they brought me...

    SAE 30R14T2

    If anyone familiar with SAE 30R14T2 fuel line knows for sure, please let me know here for myself and others. I don't want to tear back into the fuel tank again but, I'll do it for sure. It wouldn't hurt to re-familiarize myself with the task!
     
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  10. DeadEye

    DeadEye High Miler GT di Razza Pura

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    Looks good -

    Napa Host PDF link. napabeltshose.com/~/media/NAPA/Documents/NAPA Submersible hose.pdf

    If you search around for that number its seems its specifically rated for ethanol / methanol submersion.
     
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  11. morpheous

    morpheous Just got it firing!

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    So NAPA #H209, thank you guys for the tip
     
  12. Louisv97

    Louisv97 Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    He's referring to the fuel line quick disconnect
     
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    morpheous Just got it firing!

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    my gtm metal filter came with two types of the correct clamps depending on your fuelline diameter
     
  14. James Dixon

    James Dixon Just got it firing!

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    I'm reading mixed information on various forums about the correct size of the Oetiker clamps required.

    Some websites suggest Part number 16700011 which are 11.3mm CLOSED and 13.8mm OPEN

    Others are suggesting 11.3MM is the OPEN size , which then suggests it's the 9.6mm CLOSED position (Oetiker part 16700007)

    Does anyone know which is the correct clamp (11.3 closed or 11.3 open)?

    I know our host sells a kit which is great, but I'm in Canada and the cost of shipping a filter and clamps is a bit cost prohibitive in this particular scenario. I have to make a big part order in a few months and I could just toss the kit onto that, but this is something I would like to get sorted out right away.

    Thanks
    James
     
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