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Modern "No Start" issue solution

Discussion in 'Chat & Tech Info' started by GTM®, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. motoman

    motoman Just got it firing!

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    2010 Griso 1200 8V here... Starter issues like everyone else, tried everything, include MPH wiring. Finally replaced Starter/Solenoid with a Bosch Unit: 001 106 407 from Euro Moto Electrics. Problem solved. Starter motor was actually OK, Solenoid apparently F'ed.

    This will be my Last Guzzi. I've never had this type problem in 40 years of riding motorcycles, and I don't have time to deal with it now. Especially since it's so hard to get parts from Piaggio. Guzzi should just give us a Kick Starter!
     
  2. scottmastrocinque

    scottmastrocinque Scott Mastrocinque GT Famiglia

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    So...

    Because of an incorrect self-diagnosis of a 10 year old starter solenoid (a wear and tear electrical item) that needed to be replaced, you are having an emotional outburst moment of how you’ll never own another Moto Guzzi...

    Seriously?
     
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  3. Louisv97

    Louisv97 Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    shhh I'd be happy to take it off his hands haha
     
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  4. bcls482

    bcls482 Just got it firing! GT Contributor

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    I am having the startus interruptus problem with my 2012 Stelvio NTX with 90,000 km on the clock. The battery is new and shows 12.8 volts at the battery terminals. However, there is only 10.4 volts at the starter solenoid and no startus. I've noticed that the headlights come on as soon as I press the starter button, and to eliminate the headlight draw, I removed the headlight relay and gained an additional volt at the starter solenoid. My question is: should the headlights come on when I press the starter button, or should they come on once the engine starts? Have I got an incorrect relay in my headlight circuit or some other problem? Perhaps this is normal and how everything is supposed to work. Thanks in advance for your answer. Len O
     
  5. scottmastrocinque

    scottmastrocinque Scott Mastrocinque GT Famiglia

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    This is well documented and explained. Did you exert any effort and read the posts?

    90,000 km and you never noticed how the lights work?

    I’m confused and bewildered.
     
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  6. patd

    patd Just got it firing!

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    Full disclosure - my first post. I have recently applied the starter wiring fixes to both my Guzzis with great success. Both bikes would try to start yet act as though it had a weak battery (ie hesitate before cranking or trying unsuccessfully to crank). This began with my 2004 V11Sport Ballabio which went through a couple batteries, then I rebuilt the starter with a new solenoid. Both fixes would work for a little while, then regress back to weak starting. I kept the bike on a battery maintainer thinking there was a mysterious current drain, that only helped a little. The other bike is a 2012 Norge and there I also replaced the battery which only helped for a couple days. After reading this entire thread, I made the wiring fix to the Norge first as it is a simple one fused wire change. Wow. Problem solved. The V11 has a different wiring scheme which required a separate relay + fuse to be added, this of course has been discussed previously. The difference when starting was immediately, hugely better. I would guess that aside from delivering a better voltage to the solenoid, the lesser overall wiring resistance allows more power to the starter motor too.
     
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  7. scottmastrocinque

    scottmastrocinque Scott Mastrocinque GT Famiglia

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    OMG, come here and let me shake your hand Sir!

    Now, if everyone that has a problem did this, things would be so much easier and successful for them all.

    I tell people all the time that there are very few issues that are not already discussed and solved in detail. SEARCH is a powerful tool and your best friend when combined with reading! :)

    Besides, nothing is more stimulating and fun, like interesting and intelligent questions which spring forth from a basic knowledge and understanding garnered from reading.
     
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