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Oh No - Not Tires

Ken Wantje said:
So I finally burned through my first Shinko 777 180/65-16 and I got a little over 7000 miles out of it. Very happy considering it's half the price of most other tires ($160). Handling and traction has been great both dry and wet. I also have the 777 on the front now and equally impressed at $130.
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Where do you buy these tires, I usually go to Rocky Mtn ATV for tires but they don't show those sizes available, thanks

I am assuming these are bias ply or do they come in radials too, all I have found is the B code

I runs Shinko 009 on my Triumph Tiger and love them
 
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The beads do not work. Pure Gimmick.

Try and find anybody who races that uses them…you won’t.

I refuse to work on any tire with them installed at my workshop. They are FORBIDDEN.

It is impossible to get all of those bastards out of the tire before you break the bead loose.

The worst fall I ever had was I slipped on those bastards on my concrete floor of my workshop.

Hate hate hate them. 🤮😡🤯
 
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scottmastrocinque said:
The beads do not work. Pure Gimmick.

Try and find anybody who races that uses them…you won’t.
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Well... they don't use turn signals either... BMWs don't use them even on the roads...🤣
I hear ya, your wisdom is worth more then gold but at the same time I have sm mixed feelings... I'm drooling at them Kineo spoked wheels and sm nice Mitchelin Road 6 shoes to go with (I know, I have to sell my kids and my kidneys first), and If I'll have to put a fugly blob on one I'll have a jammer and cry like watching Coco... it's the only movie I cry watching, and it's not even a movie, a bloody cartoon...
 
Some things are necessary. Wheel weights are one of them. There are really high-end nice ones, and cheap ass fugly ones.

I hear what you are saying but the balancing beads are still a gimmick and snake oil if you ask me.

rideapart.com/reviews/254107/dyna-beads-miracle-balancing-cure-or-tire-snake-oil/amp/
 
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Maybe a bonehead/obvious Tire question.
The Pirelli Angel GTs that my new to me Sept 3rd Norge 8v came with have angled off, rather noticeably on the rear, although not to the wear bars yet. Front seems fairly ok but still also a bit angled. Also, date stamps on them are 2012 and 2014. I have a ride around NS and Cape Breton coming up in Oct, so should go with confidence.? Have a look, I suspect they're toast but I'm a frugal bastard...

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Guzzooks said:
Maybe a bonehead/obvious Tire question.
The Pirelli Angel GTs that my new to me Sept 3rd Norge 8v came with have angled off, rather noticeably on the rear, although not to the wear bars yet. Front seems fairly ok but still also a bit angled. Also, date stamps on them are 2012 and 2014. I have a ride around NS and Cape Breton coming up in Oct, so should go with confidence.? Have a look, I suspect they're toast but I'm a frugal bastard...
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Change them out and don't worry about them, if you ride with those you will have to constantly keep looking at the rear. Don't be too frugal with your safety and peace of mind
 
Guzzooks said:
The Pirelli Angel GTs that my new to me Sept 3rd Norge 8v came with have angled off, rather noticeably on the rear, although not to the wear bars yet.
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i am wondering if that was caused by low pressure and the tire Cupping, no pressure on the center, so you would be riding on the edges ?
 
DeadEye said:
i am wondering if that was caused by low pressure and the tire Cupping, no pressure on the center, so you would be riding on the edges ?
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I’d thought the same, each tire was down about 6 lbs. Went to proper pressures soon after I got the bike. Even at the tire’s age, there are no weather cracks or other nasty signs… treads are still deep - but I’m putting new rubber on for the trip.
 
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I got a Flat Rear tire while out on the Honda drove it back 10Km on a VERY Low but stiff tire -

At any Mph is it Fun to Blow a Tire :cry: I think NOT !
I'm down 150$ and have peace of Mind and it has a Brand New Tire / Tube and Rim tape
( That only 10$ US or Euros )
 
Guzzooks said:
Maybe a bonehead/obvious Tire question.
The Pirelli Angel GTs that my new to me Sept 3rd Norge 8v came with have angled off, rather noticeably on the rear, although not to the wear bars yet. Front seems fairly ok but still also a bit angled. Also, date stamps on them are 2012 and 2014. I have a ride around NS and Cape Breton coming up in Oct, so should go with confidence.? Have a look, I suspect they're toast but I'm a frugal bastard...

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Exact same issue on a Bellagio, Pirelli Angel GT and GT II's.
Destroys handling especially at low speed.
 
A bit of info on tyres that I have had on the Eldo over the past seven and a half years. The original Dunlops felt ok, mileage 11,200kms. Replaced with Metzler 888 Marathons, always felt a bit uneasy on wet roads running these, mileage 15,200kms. Replaced with Avon Cobras, great tyre in wet and dry, mileage 13,600kms. Replaced with Avon Cobra Chromes, again good feel wet and dry but maybe a bit softer than the original Cobras, mileage 11,300kms. Had a further 2 pairs of these, mileage 10,700 and 9,600kms (changed early before a big trip). The Avon's weren't available for the next change otherwise I would have stayed with them, I rate them very highly, the only ones available in sizes for the Eldo were the Michelin Commander 3's so I went with them. Handling and grip in dry or wet were pretty much on par with the Avon's so I was interested to see how they compared on mileage. All the tyres before them had worn pretty evenly front and rear and were replaced as pairs but the Michelin's are the only time I have ever worn out a front tyre before the rear, I'm guessing it must be a softer compound compared to the rear. But that being said it has lasted 14,000kms and is just down to the wear marks, the rear is still looking good and when I called into the tyre shop today to order a new front he reckons there is probably 7 to 8,000kms still in the rear tyre, making it good for 20,000km+and they have both kept their shape really well. Price is comparable with the Avon,s maybe even a little cheaper. Worth a try if you are looking for a high mileage tyre.
 

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abbienormal said:
Just got back from putting 3,300 miles in rain, dry, highway and back roads around the Cabot Trail on my new Metzlers. I can see some flat spotting on the rear. Front looks good but looking at it and past experience with tires I'll bet it is cupping by 7,000 miles which is what I hope to get out of the rear. Then I'll change both again. I was definitely easy on them as I never scraped the plastic sliders on the floorboards. I had confidence in the tires in the rain with no problems.
For reference I got 4,200 out of the stock tires and was satisfied with the ride and traction but short life and what I perceive as a handling improvement with the Metzlers says no more Dunlops on my Cali. They may have had at best another 1,000 miles on them but the trip and a nail in the rear determined they had to go.
My experience with tires includes not only my own bikes over the years but 20 years working at a Honda motorcycle dealer, long ago 1973-1993, and selling many tires. Dunlops used to be my favorite till about the time the 391 came out. I have tried them several times since and always regretted it. Just my opinion on tires as we all know nobody will agree on what to run.
I'll be curious if anybody runs the GoldWing tire combo. Might work and maybe last.
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Mine is 50,000 on a 2013....and has Avon Cobra Chrome on it...it is a recent acquisition...my 6th Guzzi
I covered 100,000 miles in 15 countries on three Victory bikes....all if which had Avon Cobras fitted and I was very happy with the grip...and wear...usually 6 to 7000 miles from rears and around 8,000 from the front tyre

Tyres have been fine on the California...Lees so the rear caliper which is destroyed...it stuck on the disc and broke in two...dealer is replacing it with a reconditioned unit and a new disc
Regards

Robert Lyford-Smith
 
All this is well and good, but Cobra Chrome has been very hard to come by in the US lately. I ended up having to go with the Metzelers (hoping the traction and rain performance are good!).
 
Sadly Cooper Avon tyre plant is closing at the end of 2023...based in Melksham in the UK since 1904....factory will close with the loss of 350 jobs....no more Avon....
 
bobelpfan said:
Sadly Cooper Avon tyre plant is closing at the end of 2023...based in Melksham in the UK since 1904....factory will close with the loss of 350 jobs....no more Avon....
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Are they going out of business, or just moving to Asia for manufacturing?
 
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