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PC-V & AutoTune 300 on Cal 14

Todd installed this on my bike a couple weeks ago along with the exhaust system. Discovered yesterday what a huge difference it makes in the mapping selections. I had always ridden in Veloce and only occasionally using tourismo. Yesterday going for a casual ride around town I couldn't seem to keep steady on the throttle. I was constantly gunning it at take off and then letting off to much when slowing down. The bike is pretty loud now so I was drawing a lot of attention. Since this does not suit my usual laid back demeanor ha ha, I had to put it in tourismo. Wow! Never had to do that before. Anyways, before the modifications there didn't seem to be a huge difference between tourismo and Veloce, now there is and it is quite noticeable. Throttle response is extremely good now is this is something that I am very happy about.
 
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Curt Russell said:
.... I had to put it in tourismo. Wow! Never had to do that before. Anyways, before the modifications there didn't seem to be a huge difference between tourismo and Veloce, now there is and it is quite noticeable. Throttle response is extremely good now is this is something that I am very happy about.
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Curt,

Until now I hadn't thought about switching modes, I've been running in Veloce since the 600 mile oil change. Given your earlier posts about throttle response in Tourismo, and your latest update, I may have to break out the owners manual for a refresher. Thanx for the heads up.
 
blakbird said:
Curt,

Until now I hadn't thought about switching modes, I've been running in Veloce since the 600 mile oil change. Given your earlier posts about throttle response in Tourismo, and your latest update, I may have to break out the owners manual for a refresher. Thanx for the heads up.
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I could be wrong but I believe the differences between Veloce and Tourismo is just throttle sensitivity with Veloce being more sensitive or reactive. Throttle response is so good since the fueling modifications that Veloce seems like a hair trigger to me now. I rode all day yesterday in Tourismo and it seemed perfect.
 
Curt Russell said:
I could be wrong but I believe the differences between Veloce and Tourismo is just throttle sensitivity with Veloce being more sensitive or reactive.
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The "maps" (more mode) are simply power to the rear wheel via the TC system (limits power in all modes). Veloce allows the most power to the rear wheel earlier in the throttle position, but it never allows 100% from the factory. I turn the power up to 100% in Veloce at ~50% throttle on up.
 
Interesting Todd.

When I had the 1400 (which was totally stock) I preferred the Tour mode.
When in the Velo mode it always "felt" like it topped out very quickly & the engine seemed to be working harder at 80 mph or above.
In Velo mod it felt more like a drag bike.
 
GT-Rx® said:
The "maps" (more mode) are simply power to the rear wheel via the TC system (limits power in all modes). Veloce allows the most power to the rear wheel earlier in the throttle position, but it never allows 100% from the factory. I turn the power up to 100% in Veloce at ~50% throttle on up.
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Interesting. I guess that is one of the reasons it is so noticeable. Did you also set Tourismo to reach full power and if so at what throttle position?
 
Curt Russell said:
Did you also set Tourismo to reach full power and if so at what throttle position?
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No, Turismo is untouched, but now you are benefitting from more power everywhere with the fuel kit. The Map modes have nothing to do with fueling.
 
GT-Rx® said:
No, Turismo is untouched, but now you are benefitting from more power everywhere with the fuel kit. The Map modes have nothing to do with fueling.
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That's actually a little blow to my ego Todd. I never though I'd prefer anything but full power. I guess I'll have to put it back in Veloce once in a while to keep me young.
 
I'm still a bit confused on how all that works by limiting power to the rear wheel & fuel mapping.
Funny thing is for the first time in my life I don't really need to know.

It's like I tell my wife:
"Do you need to know how the engine, transmission, brakes work on a car in order to get in, put the key in the ignition, start it & drive away"?

As long as my Guzzi runs properly, as long as I can tap into Todd's wealth of knowledge I'm good to go.
 
GT-Rx® said:
The "maps" (more mode) are simply power to the rear wheel via the TC system (limits power in all modes). Veloce allows the most power to the rear wheel earlier in the throttle position, but it never allows 100% from the factory. I turn the power up to 100% in Veloce at ~50% throttle on up.
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Todd, I'm really enjoying the awesome response and power delivery provided by the PC-V, AT 300 and ECU remap and all the time and work you put in to release the beast. You mentioned TC in your post.

I'm curious, HOW does TC limit power to the rear wheel, does the ECU manage power delivery through the clutch?
 
Curt Russell said:
That's actually a little blow to my ego Todd. I never though I'd prefer anything but full power. I guess I'll have to put it back in Veloce once in a while to keep me young.
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I finally figured out how to change the mode to Tourismo, after actually reading the OM, definitely an improvement over stock. Smoother below 3K rpm, and more predictable throttle response. I may have to be in Tourismo mode when the S.O. is on the back, but the moment she dismounts it's back to :party:
 
blakbird said:
I'm really enjoying the awesome response and power delivery provided by the PC-V, AT 300 and ECU remap and all the time and work you put in to release the beast. You mentioned TC in your post.
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Fantastic. TC does it via engine spark, same concept as the rev limiter. Google will help you understand further. ;)
 
LOL!
Dang Google!
No wonder everybody knows everything these days.

I was shocked when a few months ago one of our heat sealers went bad.
There was a small switch that is lever activated & the multi-meter confirmed it was bad.
My first thought was: "Where in the h*ll will I find one".
Noticed there was number on it & got my wife to read it.
Googled it: Presto! Ordered & machine fixed with an xtra on the shelf.
 
blakbird said:
I finally figured out how to change the mode to Tourismo, after actually reading the OM, definitely an improvement over stock. Smoother below 3K rpm, and more predictable throttle response. I may have to be in Tourismo mode when the S.O. is on the back, but the moment she dismounts it's back to :party:
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Ha ha. I can see it now Blakbird. You come back from a little solo ride and your wife asks you if you were out playing around in Veloce. "No sweetheart i was in Tourismo the whole time. I promise." "Yeah sure Blaky, you been cheating on me. Lol.
 
Curt Russell said:
Ha ha. I can see it now Blakbird. You come back from a little solo ride and your wife asks you if you were out playing around in Veloce. "No sweetheart i was in Tourismo the whole time. I promise." "Yeah sure Blaky, you been cheating on me. Lol.
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So true.

But it's either that or suffer in geezer mode while waitng for the high notes when her 250 Rebel announces every gear shift.
 
Installed the PC-V, AT 300 and ECU remap, already had V performance pipes and K&N. Installation was pretty straight forward, took me around 4 hours with no issues. Followed all the set up instructions and then exchanged maps with Todd as he looked at how it was running and made corrections as required...all very easy and great support from Todd. End result, its like having an 1800cc big bore kit fitted, if you are on the fence about doing this, trust me its worth every dollar.
 
I already have the remap etc and have been looking at the V-Performance mufflers (solely because they are homologated). Which ones do you have fitted and do you run them with the db killers installed.
 
Robert Gibson said:
I already have the remap etc and have been looking at the V-Performance mufflers (solely because they are homologated). Which ones do you have fitted and do you run them with the db killers installed.
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I only put the db killers in there once a year for the vehicle inspection, its loud with them out, but sounds amazing. IMO they also fit well with the look of the bike. Only issue I have had is that the end caps were plated which started peeling off, so just removed the plating and polished them.
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Ok so first ride with the fuel map and I'm seeing under 30mpg. I'm at 100 miles from full and the gas light is on, in Turismo mode which seems a little excessive. Not riding that aggressively either. So am I looking at 120 miles on a tank? How many miles are people getting until empty?
 
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