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If history repeats it's self it is past time for Piaggio to sell off Guzzi to someone else and maybe they won't care.
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Scott, love ya man, but here's where things get blurred for me. To start: You have BMW MOA that is still alive and well, as well as Moto Guzzi National Owners Club, unless they take that one down too. There's several other Forums using Guzzi in the name selling memberships, farkles and Ads to truly profit from. Unlike them, GuzziTech was founded as a "Owner Tips and Tricks" website as launched/shown HERE -- which this site still is. Do I link from here, sure, as do all of the others.
Additionally, I’ve spent a great deal of money and time launching my new trademarked business as GT MotoCycles (which is a completely separate business and website). I think there are many sites they can still chase using Guzzi in the name, like the one above. Additionally, their International trademark was just registered in 2021. We've been here in Sept 2001. This site is purely here for owner support and (I think) a promotional benefit to the brand.
I can also tell you Polaris does backflips to support websites like this for all of their brands, mainly Indian in this genre.
And to clarify, it's Piaggio that sent the C&D, not Guzzi (though we all know they are one in the same).
Next victim:
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Polaris did the same thing with Indian. Capitalism has it's plusses and minuses.Did you know that the Piaggio Group is currently forcing forum and website owners and professional stores to remove the word Guzzi from their names?
This is currently happening in Germany. Latest victim HMB Guzzi.
This is done by lawyers hired by the Piaggio Group.
Not at Forums. I count more than ten on a Google search right now, not including any on Faceplant.Polaris did the same thing with Indian. Capitalism has it's plusses and minuses.
This would only be to appease those who felt slighted. Most will not care, and certainly Piaggio won’t I can assure you. And careful John, they may go after Facebook pages next. They certainly are on a legal tirade.Maybe worth starting an online petition?
I didn't know that and glad to hear it. I don't think I'll be trading in my R1200GS on the V100.Not at Forums. I count more than ten on a Google search right now, not including any on Faceplant.
I have first hand knowledge, per my prior posts, that Polaris/Indian is supportive of them.
Maybe.This would only be to appease those who felt slighted. Most will not care, and certainly Piaggio won’t I can assure you. And careful John, they may go after Facebook pages next. They certainly are on a legal tirade.
From my own experience, lawyers are engaged and get paid based on succesful outcomes. Chasing ambo stuff. It starts with 'boilerplate" letters/emails which have a good success rate usually as most don't want to fight. Then there is the cost of fighting back which is a no-win situation given up against corp $$$. As has been said, "right to protect IP" VS "sales & marketing". If using a 'logo' or 'name' to manufacture a product competing with factory then maybe. But even then growing a brand name is about getting it out there.+1 the only winners are going to be the lawyers.
I understand protecting your trademark on something like the BMW logo, but on a partial name? Eh.... seems petty to me.
BUT I HAVE JUST COME UP WITH A SOLUTION!
- Just drop the "i" in your forum name - GUZZTECH -
Your mind automatically includes the missing letter when you read it (a phenomenon called "illusory conjuction") and you can wave at the lawyers as they pass you by!