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V85TT updates for 2021

DHawker said:
I read a ride report today on the Moto Guzzi v85 Facebook group that said the gear shift indicator issue now works properly with the clutch pulled in. The new modes, and tubeless tires are great and also mentioned the new torque at lower rpms feels like the bike has a 10-15 bhp increase even though its the same bhp as before. My order is in for a 2021 model.
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I saw that report also and have a lot of doubts about that increase.

@GTM - do the 21s have the same ECM? Is the ECM what controls the modes?
 
Matthew Nuttall said:
I saw that report also and have a lot of doubts about that increase.

@GTM - do the 21s have the same ECM? Is the ECM what controls the modes?
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Yeah, I'll have to ride it and see, although the person making the comment said he has had 2 previous ones to compare it to. So I guess we will just have to wait and see if his perceptions were correct. I hope so.
 
All of this does make me wonder if the 2021 ECU updates (mapping, ride modes, gear shift, etc) will be available as an update for the earlier models.
 
TenBelowGriso said:
All of this does make me wonder if the 2021 ECU updates (mapping, ride modes, gear shift, etc) will be available as an update for the earlier models.
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The real answer will live in the part #'s of the cams, otherwise, ECU wise, yes... that would be an easy one now that I have access to the ECU (finally).
 
Apparently, there is now an Urban top box that matches the panniers. Not sure exactly when it became available, but it must have been recently. (from guzzistore.com):

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__Jason
 
I purchased a Centenario last Tuesday and the gear indicator does work with the clutch in or out and with engine running or not as long as the ignition is on. The owner manual still says that it displays gear position only with engine running and moving. The engine does have good low and midrange torque, but I cannot say how it compares to earlier models because I have not ridden any 2020’s.
 
I've ridden both. The 21 has more grunt down low. Noticeable difference. Torque comes on more like my V7. Not big enough to prevent me from buying a 20. the 20 I rode was the Adventure and the 21 the travel. I will say I much prefer the shorter adventure windscreen. And I will likely move to tubeless tires once I put some wear on the current tubed tires.
 
GTM® said:
Do you mean you don't mind tubed wheels?

...I think the V85TT engine/cam profile is decent, I just wish it had a 6th gear overdrive....
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As far as I can determine (from reading the pre-2021 V85TT service manual, #2Q000400), both 5th speed (0.96 ratio) and 6th speed (0.888 ratio) are technically overdrive.
 
sib said:
As far as I can determine (from reading the pre-2021 V85TT service manual, #2Q000400), both 5th speed (0.96 ratio) and 6th speed (0.888 ratio) are technically overdrive.
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I think you need to take into consideration primary and final drive ratios as well. However, even then, I don't think it's necessarily that simple. Ultimately, what is desired is a bike that will cruise at relatively high speed, but low RPM.

__Jason
 
jwtucker said:
I think you need to take into consideration primary and final drive ratios as well. However, even then, I don't think it's necessarily that simple. Ultimately, what is desired is a bike that will cruise at relatively high speed, but low RPM.

__Jason
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Yes, and the tire size as well, to calculate the revs/mi figure. But, as I said, the gearbox itself technically has 2 overdrive ratios.
 
GerryAZ said:
I purchased a Centenario last Tuesday and the gear indicator does work with the clutch in or out and with engine running or not as long as the ignition is on. The owner manual still says that it displays gear position only with engine running and moving. The engine does have good low and midrange torque, but I cannot say how it compares to earlier models because I have not ridden any 2020’s.
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Interesting, the gear indicator on the 2021 Stone only seems to work when the bike is rolling and the clutch is engaged.
 
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