Guzzi_Lou
Cruisin' Guzzisti
I'm pretty sure mine idled high while in neutral as well.
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California 1400 hanging throttle
- Thread starterguzziken
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long time away from the boards, but i see it looks alive and well.
I also am having the hanging throttle issue. Most notably after a good ride for an hour or so, and it shows itself mostly in traffic. I will be taking the bike in for service and a tire tomorrow and will ask our local tech what he thinks. '14 Cal 1400 Touring, 9600 mi, Agostini pipes, Charlotte NC
I also am having the hanging throttle issue. Most notably after a good ride for an hour or so, and it shows itself mostly in traffic. I will be taking the bike in for service and a tire tomorrow and will ask our local tech what he thinks. '14 Cal 1400 Touring, 9600 mi, Agostini pipes, Charlotte NC
Let us know what your dealer finds, corrects or recommends?
Trashtalker, obviously you are the dealer trying to fix the original posters bike correct? Have you guys found a solution or a fix yet? I don't think you or the OP have come back to say anything one way or the other. Obviously, you are being a good dealer trying to fix this bike, now my bike is doing these things, I don't know what to do here even though I have several dealers I can use. I'm hoping I find a dealer as dedicated. My bike just started to do this in the last two months or so. Last time I had any real work done was in August when the electrical recall was done on my bike. I wasn't having an issue back in August or Septemeber, but in October I believe i had a mishap and blew it off to being stuck in traffic, and then came November and now going into December, two incidents. I'm not feeling very confident on the bike at this moment.
Any news on your issue?
Was able to get an appointment to a dealer I forgot about about 45 minutes from me. Unfortunately no causes were found. Ideal conditions were not met today. It was cool, damp. overcast and later on raining. The tech only rode the bike back and forth in their lot, this isn't reproducing the issue correctly. Tech said bike was working as designed. One thing I didn't care for is trying to blame the Agostini slip ons for this issue. I believe I had one or two episodes PRIOR to the slip on install and one or two after. Those of you who have had this issue, are you bone stock or not? I'm curious. Of course most dealers will blame a non OEM part for an issue a bike or car is having, but I just want to ask.
kiwi dave
GT Reference
Easy answer to this. Try going back to stock for a while and see whether the symptoms persist.
Yes, the service guy said the same thing, I had to order new fasteners for the stock cans since I stripped three of them. But honestly, no issues going to that shop or coming home today so are the slip ons the issue?
kiwi dave
GT Reference
Probably not. Seems to me it might be a heat related issue. I have two Cali 1400s, one has the GT-Rx reflash and PC with Autotune installed. On this one, I experience total shutoff when I let the throttle go, very similar to the CARC models when the stepper motor is disabled (i.e. maximum engine braking. I did say I like solid engine braking?).
Might be your answer, and you'll enjoy other benefits such as better power and fuel consumption.
Might be your answer, and you'll enjoy other benefits such as better power and fuel consumption.
I'm confused what happens when you let go of the throttle? It shuts off on you? I've spoken to Todd ever so briefly about this but honestly I'm only good for light weight stuff on my bikes. Todd's equipment requires going to a dealer to reflash or download to the ecu, I don't know or trust a dealer to do anything of this caliber right now. How did you make out?
Todd
You're talking to a total novice when it comes to Moto Guzzi's and or fuel management. Not to mention installing said fuel managers. I know we briefly spoke about my heat issue this past spring/summer but what what do you reccomend again?
You'll still need the full kit; https://www.guzzitech.com/store/product/pc-vat300gt-rx-5am-ecu-flash/ -- upside now is that you don't need the dealer for the install, and you can set it back to stock if ever needed. The box I linked you to will be a slightly higher cost then the kit link above.
kiwi dave
GT Reference
I guess I didn't explain myself properly. What I really meant there is no hint of a hanging throttle, maximum deceleration via engine braking occurs when the throttle is released.
If I was in your position I'd embrace the new C14 ECU Programmer Box. If you don't feel competent, get a friend who understands this stuff to help. You will be amazed at the result.
Told my wife what I want and NEED for Christmas this is what I'm getting in the near future! Plus speaking with Todd and maybe you can chime in, will this help in making the bike run a little cooler? I'm just not crazy about all of the heat this bike puts out. My 2001 air cooled Beemer comes no way close to the heat as this bike.
Hello to all,
Guzziken, I hope the hanging throttle problem is solved; however, haven't visited the forum for a while, so when checking it out now, saw your post and wanted to tell you that my 2014 Cali 1400 is having the same issue.
Already mentioned my problem a while ago here. Kindly check my post titled "California 1400 engine braking". I think it might correspond to what you're experiencing.
Anyways, my problem is still persistent as i couldn't find any time to pass by the dealer and he's still confirming that an ECU update might very well solve this issue.
Shall definitely pass by him ASAP as i just noticed a slight oil leak from the upper front side of the engine block around the seal.
But i really hope the hanging throttle can be solved as it is definitely affecting the riding pleasure... engine braking is a quality i was hoping for from an Italian 1400 V Twin and the hanging throttle feeling is definitely killing it.
Thanks a lot in advance to let us know if you have any updates.
Meanwhile, Safe rides to all!
Regards.
Guzziken, I hope the hanging throttle problem is solved; however, haven't visited the forum for a while, so when checking it out now, saw your post and wanted to tell you that my 2014 Cali 1400 is having the same issue.
Already mentioned my problem a while ago here. Kindly check my post titled "California 1400 engine braking". I think it might correspond to what you're experiencing.
Anyways, my problem is still persistent as i couldn't find any time to pass by the dealer and he's still confirming that an ECU update might very well solve this issue.
Shall definitely pass by him ASAP as i just noticed a slight oil leak from the upper front side of the engine block around the seal.
But i really hope the hanging throttle can be solved as it is definitely affecting the riding pleasure... engine braking is a quality i was hoping for from an Italian 1400 V Twin and the hanging throttle feeling is definitely killing it.
Thanks a lot in advance to let us know if you have any updates.
Meanwhile, Safe rides to all!
Regards.
I went to a dealer a few weeks ago and they couldn't replicate the issue. But I do have a question. I have had one update to the ecu done while the bike was under warranty. It was for an idling issue and MG had authorized it. Anyway my dealer now tells me he wouldn't be able to download any newer updates since I changed out the stock cans for some Agostini's. Mind you, Agostini works hand and hand with MG with their factory down the road from MG's. So if there is another update available for this hanging throttle issue, can I NOT get it downloaded because of some slip ons from a sister company that claims their products are safe to use on MG products?
That sounds like an issue with your dealer, not an issue with MG.
My thoughts exactly! This is one of the reasons I was leery of this brand, who do I trust for AFTER SALES service, warranty and accessories work.