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Lost my only key!

The REAL question is,... Crackers, did you ever get your key ring back? "My whole key-life was on that ring.".....
 
kiwi dave said:
Those things I can do, and I'm not even a dealer. I suggest you find a competent one or learn yourself.
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My situation is that a key code exists, however I do not know what it is. Can you reset a key code (not knowing the existing one) to a default setting, maybe "00000"? If the answer is yes, can you share how this is done?
 
roadventure said:
My situation is that a key code exists, however I do not know what it is. Can you reset a key code (not knowing the existing one) to a default setting, maybe "00000"? If the answer is yes, can you share how this is done?
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Dave, have you tried various random ones, including that 00000? 12345?

PO's zip code, as that's what I use on my Norge. :giggle:

Buon fortuna.

Bill
 
Last five digits of the VIM is another popular one. I managed to crack a Cali 1400 code, using 11111. I figured it would be the quickest code to use as you don't have to wait for each digit to tick over up to nine times. I was lucky.
 
roadventure said:
My situation is that a key code exists, however I do not know what it is. Can you reset a key code (not knowing the existing one) to a default setting, maybe "00000"? If the answer is yes, can you share how this is done?
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As I said in a previous post, this is a security issue, and only the person that sets the code knows what it is. I will never purchase a used bike again without insisting on the code provided.

This also applies to purchasing a second-hand dash (where the code is stored). The one time I did this, I again was lucky, the previous owner hadn't set one, i.e. it was still 00000.
 
So, am I to believe that if I purchased a NEW dash from Moto Guzzi (~$265.00)
and a new key that they could be "paired" and work on my bike?
 
You have to remember that this key code is a security device. Would anyone want an easy way to overcome it made public so that anyone could do it? Might just as well not have it in the first place.
 
Brian UK said:
You have to remember that this key code is a security device. Would anyone want an easy way to overcome it made public so that anyone could do it? Might just as well not have it in the first place.
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Brian,

Agreed. But don't you think dealers should be able to re-set a key code for a owner at the owner's request?
 
roadventure said:
Brian,

Agreed. But don't you think dealers should be able to re-set a key code for a owner at the owner's request?
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How could you guarantee this knowledge would remain with dealers only? The real problem is people sell and purchase motorcycles without passing on the owner's code. Resetting to 00000 or the last five digits of the VIN would keep any personal code safe.
 
kiwi dave said:
How could you guarantee this knowledge would remain with dealers only? The real problem is people sell and purchase motorcycles without passing on the owner's code. Resetting to 00000 or the last five digits of the VIN would keep any personal code safe.
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Not possible. However, if a "special tool" such as the one available to dealers from MG that permits the re-setting (re-booting) of the computer is a possible solution. Unfortunately, MG does not have a way to re-set key codes. This is a fact.
 
We're going around in circles here. There is a "special" dealer, Carmo can apparently reset it and return it with 2 new keys which you get cut to your existing keys profile.

Or you could purchase that new dash at $265 (sounds too cheap to me), and marry your existing keys to this dash. The use code in this new dash will be 00000.

This is the last time I will comment on this topic.
 
kiwi dave said:
We're going around in circles here. There is a "special" dealer, Carmo can apparently reset it and return it with 2 new keys which you get cut to your existing keys profile.

Or you could purchase that new dash at $265 (sounds too cheap to me), and marry your existing keys to this dash. The use code in this new dash will be 00000.

This is the last time I will comment on this topic.
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hehehehe.... we shall see. ;)

$265.00 for a new dash was the dealer's cost quoted to me(a now out of business dealer as many are, BTW). The retail was around $500+ I think. I don't think Carmo is a MG dealer, are they? I got the impression from their website that they were a company with the knowledge of how to run and interpret oscilloscope signals from electronic items. At any rate, they seem to have the market sealed as they are the sole source for repairs to the MG computers.

I only write because it is disappointing to learn that a manufacturer builds a product and then does not know how to solve problems that may occur. It is further disappointing because I own one.
 
The real problem is when somebody buys a second hand bike with only one key, does nothing about getting a second, then loses the only key he has and complains that Guzzi have it wrong. Can't fix stupid I'm afraid.
 
Brian UK said:
The real problem is when somebody buys a second hand bike with only one key, does nothing about getting a second, then loses the only key he has and complains that Guzzi have it wrong. Can't fix stupid I'm afraid.
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Brian, maybe not. However, you must be aware of the difference between stupid and ignorant. I am sorry that you take personal offense at criticism of a company that creates a condition whereby a key code may be entered for security reasons and then does nothing to provide their dealers with a "back door" to re-set the computers to the "factory settings" if needed. THIS is my complaint. I am hopeful that I am simply ignorant and that someone can provide facts to the contrary.
 
roadventure said:
Brian, maybe not. However, you must be aware of the difference between stupid and ignorant. I am sorry that you take personal offense at criticism of a company that creates a condition whereby a key code may be entered for security reasons and then does nothing to provide their dealers with a "back door" to re-set the computers to the "factory settings" if needed. THIS is my complaint. I am hopeful that I am simply ignorant and that someone can provide facts to the contrary.
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The key code situation with Moto Guzzi is ridiculous. I don't know how a manufacturer could have such a complicated, expensive and inconvenient system. It makes no sense. This and the lousy dealer network, lack of knowledgeable mechanics and multiple discrepancies in their manuals makes Guzzi a difficult brand to deal with. If you're not a DIY kind of guy, you're kind of screwed if you ride one.
 
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OK guys lets play nice. Yes Guzzi has some issues but no more so that modern car makers with their key fob systems. Italy is a theft capitol and they have taken measure to make stealing a CARC bike more difficult. Yes it gives owners headaches at times, but the real key (pun intended) is get two keys with a bike you buy or at least the user code so you can program a second. Unless I see future posts that try to help and don't complain about the bike or posters this thread will be locked.
 
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